Look At This Disgrace.....

[Cornell29]

Bottom post of the previous page:

The poor Sofi attendance is a function of 21 years of LA Rams neglect and abuse to fans here in Socal.

Now, 25 years later, Socal has homies from ALL 32 friggin teams.

When I was a kin in the early 60s, LA belonged to the Rams, Lakers, and Dodgers. Those days are gone.

Rams need to rebuild a fanbase which can take 10 or more years. At least the rams dropping to 4 means very little, the rams dont have much of a home field advantage anyway.

[Commish]

And I know you know this but are just beyond bleeped with how they have played against SF. I get it but it’s blinding you a bit………………

But that's the only matchup I'm referring to here, I'm not discussing our team's recent home games against the Seahawks or Buccaneers or Cowboys.

However, given the Rams' past three seasons of pathetically collapsing in archrival showdowns vs. the 49ers, their local fans are certainly justified in not expending time, effort and money to watch multimillionaire players who can't be bothered to make a serious effort on the field.

On a side note, the team's management is showing incredible 'chutzpah' via actually advertising the sale of "2021 NFC West Champions" clothing at this point... :P

ram pathos...

--The Commish

[fan since 65]

The poor Sofi attendance is a function of 21 years of LA Rams neglect and abuse to fans here in Socal.

Now, 25 years later, Socal has homies from ALL 32 friggin teams.

When I was a kin in the early 60s, LA belonged to the Rams, Lakers, and Dodgers. Those days are gone.

This about sums it up. I'm not making excuses for the laid-back So. Cal. fan base but support is a generational thing. I became a fan going to the games back in the Coliseum with my Dad in the 70s when the Rams owned the 9'ers. Those memories make a lifelong fan. When the Rams moved to Anaheim they lost a lot of their traditional fan base.

Orange Country is comprised of many transplants and the Rams while good on the field never seemed to capture a new fan base there to replace the old. Then the 7-times-married-former-show-girl with the full support of Stan K. moved the team to St. Louie, which for many long-term Ram fans ended their support and ties to the team. You could argue the moved killed several generations of fan support

The marketing for the return to L.A. focused on both Goff and Gurley neither of whom panned out for long. The rebranding of the team with its new uniform and logo was pretty much a disaster and so it goes. 9er fans taking over SoFi on Sunday sickened me, it was pathetic and I called it out over and over on the game day chat. No excuses but as in most things there is an historical reason how it came to pass...NorCal and Brooklyn don't get me wrong I absolutely agree with you both, it was an embarrassment and the team deserved better...

[Rampager66]

I want to discuss players and coaches on my team. Not getting worked up over the color jerseys in the stadium. Niners have way more fans than us in the state. They'll always draw a ton of fans in our own stadium.

Rams have sold a ton of season tickets. People want to get top dollar resale value for it, that's up to them. Not going to upset me.

Ahh so we can only discuss what you approve?

Why am I not shocked

Don't you love how those on the left keep their politics out of this section...
Cramming their leftists ideals down everyone's throat is not political as far as they're concerned,
We see the self anointed thread/thought police trying to curb free speech all over the place, deeming what they don't agree with as not worthy of being a thread or message.
Claiming to speak for the whole site because the same 2 or 3 people gave them a thank you AGAIN....
And it's cancel culture for anyone who disagrees with or gives back to them what they dish out ala the ignore button.
And rules for thee but not for me... personal attacks that go unchecked and are even lauded if they are directed at the right/wrong person...
But keep the politics out.....
Yes not too shocking is it... ;)

[NorCal RF]

Then not targeted to you my friend, but why were you all not there yesterday if you too don’t like seeing “seas of red”………….

Again let me be very clear I know your dad is down with COVID and you have a little one so again not talking about you………..

Sorry but again 20 years of no football is not a high % of current residents who are stilled bleeped off about them leaving then. I just don’t buy it……………….

Think about it, you know why I cant go. I cant get in. But thats for off topic.

And Pop turned the corner. Wife got him on all the therapeutics and helped him dramatically.

Honestly, I have no real reasons why we suck down here. Not a neighbor I know on my street is a Rams fan and I live in the heart of Orange County. But most of neighbors are not from here, either they are from different states or different continents.

I give up here. I just gave some my own observations. I dont get it and sure bothers me too. Wish we had more local fans.

This subject actually should be pointed at Kevin Dumoff... He should be asking his high priced marketing team what gives....

Happy to hear about your dad.

I did forget about the other issue that prevents you from attending games………..

I agree on the Dumoff comment…………..

[NorCal RF]

it’s was a jab at me. harkin n I are disagreeing a lot right now…………….

Well here is a pointer, just DO NOT mention anything about Kupp having a HOF type season. That does not go over well with him. Like at all. Its really the only thing he's ever yelled at me about.

Something is going w Hark I think lately.... oh wait, we're Rams fans... Thats it! 8-)

With me and him it’s about style of play, matchups, and him insisting on trying to put a square peg into a round hole and seeing it just doesn’t work all the time and not seeing why it doesn’t. Or being “ blinded” using his word on why…………

[NorCal RF]

And I know you know this but are just beyond bleeped with how they have played against SF. I get it but it’s blinding you a bit………………

But that's the only matchup I'm referring to here, I'm not discussing our team's recent home games against the Seahawks or Buccaneers or Cowboys.

However, given the Rams' past three seasons of pathetically collapsing in archrival showdowns vs. the 49ers, their local fans are certainly justified in not expending time, effort and money to watch multimillionaire players who can't be bothered to make a serious effort on the field.

On a side note, the team's management is showing incredible 'chutzpah' via actually advertising the sale of "2021 NFC West Champions" clothing at this point... :P

ram pathos...

--The Commish

I will never agree with you on the lack of effort comment which is fine. So they decide to give max effort with Seattle and AZ but choose to not against SF? Ok…………

I like the advertising………….

[sanbagger]

it’s was a jab at me. harkin n I are disagreeing a lot right now…………….

Well here is a pointer, just DO NOT mention anything about Kupp having a HOF type season. That does not go over well with him. Like at all. Its really the only thing he's ever yelled at me about.

Something is going w Hark I think lately.... oh wait, we're Rams fans... Thats it! 8-)

Are you trying to say that game Kupp had yesterday was NOT a HOF type game? Just nonsense

[Commish]

But that's the only matchup I'm referring to here, I'm not discussing our team's recent home games against the Seahawks or Buccaneers or Cowboys.

However, given the Rams' past three seasons of pathetically collapsing in archrival showdowns vs. the 49ers, their local fans are certainly justified in not expending time, effort and money to watch multimillionaire players who can't be bothered to make a serious effort on the field.

On a side note, the team's management is showing incredible 'chutzpah' via actually advertising the sale of "2021 NFC West Champions" clothing at this point... :P

ram pathos...

I will never agree with you on the lack of effort comment which is fine. So they decide to give max effort with Seattle and AZ but choose to not against SF? Ok…………

I like the advertising………….

The Rams don't usually 'play scared' when facing the Cardinals and Seahawks, however they have done exactly that during their last six matchups with the 49ers, probably because Sean McVay is intimidated by Kyle Shanahan and his fear is transmitted to his players.

I'm figuring that the 2021 divisional championship stuff shouldn't go on sale until the Spring Equinox at the earliest, our team should currently be feeling deep embarrassment about the way it 'backed into' the NFC West title via sheer good luck.

I now own a "2018 NFC Champions" t-shirt and cap, but they were purchased quite a while after the Rams' humiliation in Super Bowl LIII.

As I tell my beloved wife, "I really don't like losing..." :( :cry: :x

ram pathos...

--The Commish

[NorCal RF]

I will never agree with you on the lack of effort comment which is fine. So they decide to give max effort with Seattle and AZ but choose to not against SF? Ok…………

I like the advertising………….

The Rams don't usually 'play scared' when facing the Cardinals and Seahawks, however they have done exactly that during their last six matchups with the 49ers, probably because Sean McVay is intimidated by Kyle Shanahan and his fear is transmitted to his players.

I'm figuring that the 2021 divisional championship stuff shouldn't go on sale until the Spring Equinox at the earliest, our team should currently be feeling deep embarrassment about the way it 'backed into' the NFC West title via sheer good luck.

I now own a "2018 NFC Champions" t-shirt and cap, but they were purchased quite a while after the Rams' humiliation in Super Bowl LIII.

As I tell my beloved wife, "I really don't like losing..." :( :cry: :x

ram pathos...

--The Commish

You are in a roll commish. Not a roll I agree with but it’s certainly a roll………….

[fan since 65]

Commish come up big after a loss, it fuels him...usually crickets after a win...bizarre kind of 'fan'...all pathos all the time, 24/7...yet adores Goff...

[Commish]

Commish come up big after a loss, it fuels him...

I admit to being a Jared Goff supporter during his two Pro Bowl seasons (2017 & '18) with our team, however to my recollection I was hardly alone back then. He was one of the major reasons that the Good Guys returned to contending status after over a decade of losing futility.

I've already conceded that I totally dislike it when the Rams lose, especially critical games, that has disappointed me greatly since the late 1960s. So yes, it does "fuel" my annoyance... :( :cry: :x

ram power...

--The Commish

[UK Rams Fan]

They actually don't allow this sort of thing to happen in the UK. (Soccer)

The home stadiums only allocate approx 15-30% of total seats to visiting supporters and there is a specific section within the stadium where they sit. (Segregated- mainly due to our history of violence between Soccer fans) but there are some occasions where some fan bases do mix.

Only a certain small allocation of seats are given to corporates within stadiums, but only for home seat allocations i.e they shouldn't be given to visiting fans but sometimes touts manage to get hold of a small number of them.

For a visiting supporter to be in a home section (during certain rivalries) is never a good idea, severely frowned upon and can often lead to crowd trouble.

It is never heard of that Season Ticket holders sell their seats for specific matches to visiting supporters. This is due to loyalty to the team. If seats don't get filled they lie empty for the majority of the time, however, that is quite rare in this day and age as Soccer is our most popular sport across the country going all the way from the Premier League right down to Non-League.

So in summary, home supporters will always have the biggest presence and voice at soccer matches and are often referred to as the 12th man on the field over here. It is definitely an advantage to the home team unless they completely suck playing the game.

[29TheBest]

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It’s because Southern California is full of transplants, or it’s the entertainment capital, or we need championships to show up, or………..

You didn’t know this Mike…………..

Exactly RIGHT!! We needed to kick the you know what out of them and it would have shut all those red shirted POS's up and keep them from spending high $$$ for tickets next time

[Jack85Youngblood]

You guys are getting way too worked up about this, especially Brooklyn

Actually no we are not. That was bleeping embarrassing yesterday…………

Guess what is being talked about up here today? They are laughing and mocking the fan base down there and rightfully so…………..

I agree NorCal. I knew it was bad; but I didn't realize it was THAT bad! That had to be 70 to 75% Whiner fans in that pic. So disheartening to a loyal fan. Kroenke has provided a competitive team and an amazing venue. Shame on Los Angeles for not supporting them.

[NorCal RF]

They actually don't allow this sort of thing to happen in the UK. (Soccer)

The home stadiums only allocate approx 15-30% of total seats to visiting supporters and there is a specific section within the stadium where they sit. (Segregated- mainly due to our history of violence between Soccer fans) but there are some occasions where some fan bases do mix.

Only a certain small allocation of seats are given to corporates within stadiums, but only for home seat allocations i.e they shouldn't be given to visiting fans but sometimes touts manage to get hold of a small number of them.

For a visiting supporter to be in a home section (during certain rivalries) is never a good idea, severely frowned upon and can often lead to crowd trouble.

It is never heard of that Season Ticket holders sell their seats for specific matches to visiting supporters. This is due to loyalty to the team. If seats don't get filled they lie empty for the majority of the time, however, that is quite rare in this day and age as Soccer is our most popular sport across the country going all the way from the Premier League right down to Non-League.

So in summary, home supporters will always have the biggest presence and voice at soccer matches and are often referred to as the 12th man on the field over here. It is definitely an advantage to the home team unless they completely suck playing the game.

Thanks for the info………

Well last Sunday then if we did this here it would have meant half the stadium would of had no one sitting in seats…………

[NorCal RF]

Actually no we are not. That was bleeping embarrassing yesterday…………

Guess what is being talked about up here today? They are laughing and mocking the fan base down there and rightfully so…………..

I agree NorCal. I knew it was bad; but I didn't realize it was THAT bad! That had to be 70 to 75% Whiner fans in that pic. So disheartening to a loyal fan. Kroenke has provided a competitive team and an amazing venue. Shame on Los Angeles for not supporting them.

But boy 85 can they come up with excuses………

And they have convinced themselves that they are legitimate reasons not to show up and their excuses are not prevalent in any other NFL city………..

Again embarrassing but apparently most of them don’t care……..

But hey that’s our team. Go Rams……….

[NorCal RF]

I agree NorCal. I knew it was bad; but I didn't realize it was THAT bad! That had to be 70 to 75% Whiner fans in that pic. So disheartening to a loyal fan. Kroenke has provided a competitive team and an amazing venue. Shame on Los Angeles for not supporting them.

Los Angeles fans are soft. NFL may be too much for em. Stick to USC, UCLA, homecomings, dances and play dates girls. This is man territory, and San Francisco showed you fags HOW to support a team.

Mike some advice from a friend………

Don’t cross that line again. Not worth it. You know what I’m referring to. Just go do something else for a few hours if you can’t because you are that fired up…………

[HIhorns]

It’s because Southern California is full of transplants, or it’s the entertainment capital, or we need championships to show up, or………..

You didn’t know this Mike…………..

I love these people making excuses. Bottom Line. L.A. was GIVEN a top team, Organization, Stadium and they DONT want it.

I agree, they don't want it. Too many participation trophies were given out in LA. I thought it was all of CA, but it seems that NorCal fans are a little more intense. I hate to admit it, but St. Louis cared more for the Rams when they had em.

[HIhorns]

Guys, I wasnt making any excuses. I was trying to answer your questions being a SoCal native.

Like I said there, and I will here... there is no clear answer how to fix this. It is an abomination what is happening.

But, I do think if we win a Championship, it will help our chances in seeing more blue.

No one knows. Hope it changes. But right now, there are more pressing needs w this team.

I thought you were being sarcastic, like those are all the alibis being pumped out by the citizens of LA and the press. It will take more than one Super Bowl victory to change things. Not to worry...if we get by the Cards, we will be on the road anyway. For now, not only are the 49ers carrying around the Rams manhood for all to see, but the LA fans appear to have been castrated as well. I can't even wear a Ram's shirt in public this week.

[HIhorns]

Sorry then those are “fans” this team doesn’t need………..

And same will half of the other teams in the NFL in regards to “ fans in our own stadium”. It always the Cowboys have more fans, the Packers have more fans, the Bears have more fans, yada yada yada in our state……………

Damn sad and it’s not the message that SoCal sent 7 years ago………..

But hey who cares. Hey Stafford continue practicing that silent count because you will continue to need it for home games……………….

The baby boomers have come to retirement age and are fleeing California by the thousands every month. The other old die hards are fed up with California and are leaving as well. Yes, it’s been going on now for the last 5 years or so. Just look at our site here. How many of you die hards live out of state? The coliseum was once a packed house of 100,000 fans. Now of if 20,000 die hard s show up, that’s a lot. The rest are just drunken fools and fans of the other team who scored great seats from a corporate season ticket holder. You can blame California politics for most of this.

Thank you! California politics is a reflection of its citizens. Id go to every game if I lived in the area. I did get to attend the preseason game against Dallas in Hawaii a couple of years ago. 80% Cowboy fans at that game, but that is to be expected. A home game at their own stadium with that many visiting team's fans is not a good look. Some of you say what does it matter? Im pretty sure if any of us went to work and had our normal co workers there but also nearly the same amount of strangers yelling "you suck", we would be thrown off a little....lol.

[HIhorns]

Okay. So an NFL team not gaining Home Field Advantage is just fine and dandy with you, got it. As close as that game was, it can be ARGUED, that crowd advantage tipped the scales to San Francisco. We lost the 2 seed because Ram fans cant be bothered to support the team. More important to get "resale value." Got it. Boy, this really bodes well for us going forward.

The Nomad Rams.

Boy do I miss the old dark, dank, dungeon of St. Louie...

Were the opposing fans a factor when we were up 17-0 or only in the second half? Just checking. The HFA isn't as big a deal anymore unless you're GB with the weather. Go look at the number of home losses the playoff teams had in both leagues. 8/14 had at least 3 home losses. A few with 4.

No, they weren't a factor at that time because the 49ers were getting beaten down. Then Coach McVay gave them life by calling a 3rd and 1 empty backfield pass play. If those 49er fans weren't there, then they wouldn't have been a factor at any time. I hate that Stafford said it was a factor, because in the end, the Rams have to make plays no matter the situation, but the fact is they were a factor, whether big or small, because they were there.

[HIhorns]

Exactly!

You two are killing me today. Goodness...

You really think we like to see seas of red? What is wrong w you two today.

When did we ever say this wasnt a problem?

Our stadium gets overrun because for 20 years there was NO football team and PLUS when the Rams left, they sure upset a lot of people in how they did it.

NorCal asked what could possibly be done, and I gave some observations. That is it. Now I have no problem with it?

Sorry, we're lousy fans. We suck. Move to the team to Brooklyn.

Lol, I had to get in on this. It looks like about 80% of the Ram fans in the greater LA area do suck. I have been a Ram fan for 50+ years and have lived in Hawaii my entire life. Those horns on the helmets drew me in. It was sad and embarrassing to see that "sea of red", and if the team moved to Brooklyn, that would be outstanding! My son lives there so I could time my visits with the Ram home games. The only problem is it would be hard to get tickets because the games would all be sold out with actual Ram fans.

[HIhorns]

The poor Sofi attendance is a function of 21 years of LA Rams neglect and abuse to fans here in Socal.

Now, 25 years later, Socal has homies from ALL 32 friggin teams.

When I was a kin in the early 60s, LA belonged to the Rams, Lakers, and Dodgers. Those days are gone.

I watch Dodger and Laker games. They don't seem to have a problem with many invading fans.

[HIhorns]

The poor Sofi attendance is a function of 21 years of LA Rams neglect and abuse to fans here in Socal.

Now, 25 years later, Socal has homies from ALL 32 friggin teams.

When I was a kin in the early 60s, LA belonged to the Rams, Lakers, and Dodgers. Those days are gone.

This about sums it up. I'm not making excuses for the laid-back So. Cal. fan base but support is a generational thing. I became a fan going to the games back in the Coliseum with my Dad in the 70s when the Rams owned the 9'ers. Those memories make a lifelong fan. When the Rams moved to Anaheim they lost a lot of their traditional fan base.

Orange Country is comprised of many transplants and the Rams while good on the field never seemed to capture a new fan base there to replace the old. Then the 7-times-married-former-show-girl with the full support of Stan K. moved the team to St. Louie, which for many long-term Ram fans ended their support and ties to the team. You could argue the moved killed several generations of fan support

The marketing for the return to L.A. focused on both Goff and Gurley neither of whom panned out for long. The rebranding of the team with its new uniform and logo was pretty much a disaster and so it goes. 9er fans taking over SoFi on Sunday sickened me, it was pathetic and I called it out over and over on the game day chat. No excuses but as in most things there is an historical reason how it came to pass...NorCal and Brooklyn don't get me wrong I absolutely agree with you both, it was an embarrassment and the team deserved better...

Well stated.

[HIhorns]

They actually don't allow this sort of thing to happen in the UK. (Soccer)

The home stadiums only allocate approx 15-30% of total seats to visiting supporters and there is a specific section within the stadium where they sit. (Segregated- mainly due to our history of violence between Soccer fans) but there are some occasions where some fan bases do mix.

Only a certain small allocation of seats are given to corporates within stadiums, but only for home seat allocations i.e they shouldn't be given to visiting fans but sometimes touts manage to get hold of a small number of them.

For a visiting supporter to be in a home section (during certain rivalries) is never a good idea, severely frowned upon and can often lead to crowd trouble.

It is never heard of that Season Ticket holders sell their seats for specific matches to visiting supporters. This is due to loyalty to the team. If seats don't get filled they lie empty for the majority of the time, however, that is quite rare in this day and age as Soccer is our most popular sport across the country going all the way from the Premier League right down to Non-League.

So in summary, home supporters will always have the biggest presence and voice at soccer matches and are often referred to as the 12th man on the field over here. It is definitely an advantage to the home team unless they completely suck playing the game.

Thanks for the info………

Well last Sunday then if we did this here it would have meant half the stadium would of had no one sitting in seats…………

I say better half empty for the Rams, but not good for ownership, who wants to make money. I would have called Ram fans out whether the stadium was half empty or half filled with 49er fans. Both stem from a lack of local support.

[HIhorns]

And I can tell you fans here in the "boroughs" are clamoring for a team. A real NEW YORK CITY team. People here not only fed up with Jets and Giants on-field performance they want one of them to move BACK to New York or drop New York from their name. A fanalready filed suit.

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Maybe New York and Los Angeles can work out a deal and trade Kronke and the Rams for Mara's Giants. That way, the way the Giants play, it would warrant the empty seats. The only issue is the downgrade playing at Giants Stadium. Maybe New York would have to throw in a new stadium built in the middle of Central Park...lol.

[Rammer]

Thanks for the info………

Well last Sunday then if we did this here it would have meant half the stadium would of had no one sitting in seats…………

I say better half empty for the Rams, but not good for ownership, who wants to make money. I would have called Ram fans out whether the stadium was half empty or half filled with 49er fans. Both stem from a lack of local support.

I am assuming this is season ticket holders selling their tickets to San Fran fans. So, the ownership already got their money. The question is why didn't the ticket holders want to go to that game? It was the Niners, the game meant something too.

[NorCal RF]

Apologized for the f remark but the sentiment remains. Support the team at Home games to a proper level or give the team to a City that WILL.

More bees w honey, Mike.

I agree w you, in fact no one disagrees w you from the 3 threads going over the same thing that I have seen. But, remember, the fans in here are real fans and would go to any game we could, especially us So Cal guys... maybe just stop projecting or putting all of us in that box. I know thats not what you mean, because I think I know you well enough. But, it could read that way.

I know you are angry, NO ONE Liked the scene on Sunday...but like NorCal suggested... go grab your dog and take a walk over to prospect or gravesend park, and just dream about NEVER getting the Rams in Brooktown. ;)

“ But, remember, the fans in here are real fans and would go to any game we could, especially us So Cal guys...”

Again I get your situation. But everyone else in here that is down there were they there? Saying such is simply a bunch of talk……………

My last comment on this and I’m going to try to move on to Monday night unless I get a reply that I can’t resist responding to……………

I’m here in niner land. I know what has been said the last 48 hours. Yes I’d be lying if I didn’t say they were saying the Niners did it again to the Rams in the second half in regards to running the ball down their………….. But………..

They are also saying that wasn’t the same Ram team we saw earlier this year in the 1st half. That team in the first half had the Niners on the ropes. They also acknowledge the Rams, even with the second half that they had, drove 85+ yards to take the lead late. And…………

They credit JG and Samuel for going to tie the game late and then winning it in OT. I don’t mind you but they do. They are not placing the blame on the Rams but crediting their team. But to be Chrystal clear………….

They are absolutely mocking, laughing, saying told you so, and stating same old sorry bleep SoCal Rams fans. Couldn’t even show up for a 12-4 team with a division title at stake. They say they hate the Niners but come Sunday they were no where to be found. It is the fan base that they are blasting up here and deservingly so. And if you take your blinders off so is the rest of the country. Damn embarrassment period…………..

And again it appears you all don’t care. If you do then that stadium Monday night better be a sea of blue. It better be so loud that Murray won’t be able to hear what Kingsbury is saying into his helmet. It better be New Orleans in the NFC Championship Game when Goff couldn’t hear McVay and had to numerous times run to the sidelines to get the play from him……………

Question is will it………….