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McVay talks tough but prefers a soft defense

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even on his interception you could see that Witherspoon was beat if the throw wasn't behind, so that touchdown was the same thing

We gave up 20 yards on a third down run right before the punt

I could feel Forbes junior's weakness through the television set

Aaron Donald who is obviously on the team before McVay covered up for the fact that McVey likes to run a soft defense with weak fragile small fucking cornerbacks

Unfortunately we are going to get bullied in the playoffs I wish it weren't the case believe me I'm rooting against it, but this is not a coach that focus on drafting players who are tough on defense

Especially in the defensive backfield

Also he doesn't have killer instinct when it comes to offensive lineman, Shelton should not be the Center he's too weak, Diedich is too weak and small

When you play in the NFC West you need to be a fucking bully Seattle is setting up a team that's a fucking bully San Francisco has always been a fucking bully, you can't play pussy ball but that's what McVey likes to play

We will win the games we are supposed to win when our coach and our organization stops being fucking pussies
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Mostly agree - A HC/GM who put together a soft, weak O team with no mental or physical toughness. Team is undersized with small OL and RB - It has come home finally this style cannot compete with top NFL units - Seattle loss gutted the team psychologically and they will be out regardless where they play. A re boot is needed in the FO.
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The problem with a reboot of the front office is who will do it? Kroenke is a hands off owner when it comes to football decisions and McVay and Snead are in bed with each other and I don’t get the sense of that the team president would intervene in any way? As long as everyone is getting paid well and Kroenke’s checks are clearing, no one will rock the boat. Remember when McVay used the offer to go into broadcasting as leverage to get a big payday from the Rams?
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I think that is a very accurate take of what they are and where they are at - my point is about changes to consider if they are to take the next step & push the envelope to get to the top. Current team and their style of play a perfect depiction of McSnead ?
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re-boot in the FO???? you two are funny
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McVay's achilles is he does not want to give up control of the overall scheme on defense. He will never bring in a DC who will not adhere to his bend-don't-break-soft-ass approach. His bringing in Blackburn with his extremly thin resume and sticking with him demonstrated just how much control over his coordinators McVay demands.
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ocram23 wrote: January 4th, 2026, 7:10 pm re-boot in the FO???? you two are funny
They are hilarious in their minds. SMFH…….

You know before you even open the thread who are the 2-3 going back n forth……..
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I strongly believe that we have a very good front office, they just have huge blind spots that they refuse to see

they sign Joe note Boom for $10 million, they give tutu $10 million and then they don't play him, they spend zero draft capital on the interior of our offensive line for five years until they decided to finally do something about it two years ago

Despite this they had periods of greatness

Much like many of our beloved and esteemed posters

Some of them either thought we had good cornerbacks going into the season or did not care, but they were very very very comfortable defending management when it came to these cornerbacks, because at some point we won the Super Bowl a few years ago so that should absolve the front office of any negligence for at least 10 years. But I don't believe that I believe if you're going to give them high-fives for Kevin Dotson and Pooka Nacua you have to hold them accountable for these cornerbacks as well
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Any healthy organization evaluates their operation wisely in an effort to evolve and improve. Telling me this FO is infallible and without weakness? Sorry I disagree. Remember : When you’re green you are growing - when you’re ripe you are dead.
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Sure they have made mistakes but this is a very good front office and perhaps the real reason we continue to be relevant even though McVay chokes.
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therealheadslap75 wrote: January 5th, 2026, 12:11 am I strongly believe that we have a very good front office, they just have huge blind spots that they refuse to see

they sign Joe note Boom for $10 million, they give tutu $10 million and then they don't play him, they spend zero draft capital on the interior of our offensive line for five years until they decided to finally do something about it two years ago

Despite this they had periods of greatness

Much like many of our beloved and esteemed posters

Some of them either thought we had good cornerbacks going into the season or did not care, but they were very very very comfortable defending management when it came to these cornerbacks, because at some point we won the Super Bowl a few years ago so that should absolve the front office of any negligence for at least 10 years. But I don't believe that I believe if you're going to give them high-fives for Kevin Dotson and Pooka Nacua you have to hold them accountable for these cornerbacks as well
every organization makes mistakes but McSnead are highly respected within the NFL FO's. Teams want to copy their success in the draft and FA.
Yes it was a huge mistake IMO not to address the CB/LB/OL last year. McVay has a serious boner for WR's and TE's and oh yes RB's and that does scare me. bottom line we are lucky to have those guys IMO
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ocram23 wrote: January 5th, 2026, 12:24 pm
therealheadslap75 wrote: January 5th, 2026, 12:11 am I strongly believe that we have a very good front office, they just have huge blind spots that they refuse to see

they sign Joe note Boom for $10 million, they give tutu $10 million and then they don't play him, they spend zero draft capital on the interior of our offensive line for five years until they decided to finally do something about it two years ago

Despite this they had periods of greatness

Much like many of our beloved and esteemed posters

Some of them either thought we had good cornerbacks going into the season or did not care, but they were very very very comfortable defending management when it came to these cornerbacks, because at some point we won the Super Bowl a few years ago so that should absolve the front office of any negligence for at least 10 years. But I don't believe that I believe if you're going to give them high-fives for Kevin Dotson and Pooka Nacua you have to hold them accountable for these cornerbacks as well
every organization makes mistakes but McSnead are highly respected within the NFL FO's. Teams want to copy their success in the draft and FA.
Yes it was a huge mistake IMO not to address the CB/LB/OL last year. McVay has a serious boner for WR's and TE's and oh yes RB's and that does scare me. bottom line we are lucky to have those guys IMO
Here here. 100% agree on all. Well said…………
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again I'll say it again I think if you're going to give McVay and Snead high-fives when they find Byron Young, Kobe Turner, Puka and Kevin Dotson, you have to hold them accountable when they trot out Witherspoon and Forbes Jr.

It's fair to say they have put us in a position with an elevated bar but that doesn't mean within the confines of that elevated bar it's OK to under perform

I'm not watching this so I can gloat after we bully an under manned cardinal team, I wanted to rip the NFC championship trophy out of the Eagles hands at Sofi stadium

Maybe if we took kicker seriously or maybe if we took cornerback seriously this off-season that could've happened
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therealheadslap75 wrote: January 5th, 2026, 3:06 pm again I'll say it again I think if you're going to give McVay and Snead high-fives when they find Byron Young, Kobe Turner, Puka and Kevin Dotson, you have to hold them accountable when they trot out Witherspoon and Forbes Jr.

It's fair to say they have put us in a position with an elevated bar but that doesn't mean within the confines of that elevated bar it's OK to under perform

I'm not watching this so I can gloat after we bully an under manned cardinal team, I wanted to rip the NFC championship trophy out of the Eagles hands at Sofi stadium

Maybe if we took kicker seriously or maybe if we took cornerback seriously this off-season that could've happened
Again every team in the league makes mistakes in the draft and FA. Spend one day here listening to niner banter and one will hear, fair or not fair, how frustrated many are with Lynch n Shanahan. The same two that in here some envy…………

Again I agree with oc in that our duo makes far less mistakes than most around the league. It’s not a perfect science. Far from it………….
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NorCal RF wrote: January 5th, 2026, 3:11 pm
therealheadslap75 wrote: January 5th, 2026, 3:06 pm again I'll say it again I think if you're going to give McVay and Snead high-fives when they find Byron Young, Kobe Turner, Puka and Kevin Dotson, you have to hold them accountable when they trot out Witherspoon and Forbes Jr.

It's fair to say they have put us in a position with an elevated bar but that doesn't mean within the confines of that elevated bar it's OK to under perform

I'm not watching this so I can gloat after we bully an under manned cardinal team, I wanted to rip the NFC championship trophy out of the Eagles hands at Sofi stadium

Maybe if we took kicker seriously or maybe if we took cornerback seriously this off-season that could've happened
Again every team in the league makes mistakes in the draft and FA. Spend one day here listening to niner banter and one will hear, fair or not fair, how frustrated many are with Lynch n Shanahan. The same two that in here some envy…………

Again I agree with oc in that our duo makes far less mistakes than most around the league. It’s not a perfect science. Far from it………….
yes agreed but does that make it less frustrating when they miss the obvious, there's no way they could've been comfortable going into this season with this group of corners there's just no way
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therealheadslap75 wrote: January 5th, 2026, 3:23 pm
NorCal RF wrote: January 5th, 2026, 3:11 pm

Again every team in the league makes mistakes in the draft and FA. Spend one day here listening to niner banter and one will hear, fair or not fair, how frustrated many are with Lynch n Shanahan. The same two that in here some envy…………

Again I agree with oc in that our duo makes far less mistakes than most around the league. It’s not a perfect science. Far from it………….
yes agreed but does that make it less frustrating when they miss the obvious, there's no way they could've been comfortable going into this season with this group of corners there's just no way
I think they were. I honestly think they liked the group. As I mentioned in the Secondary thread I think they felt there were a few more pressing needs. Like a big run stooping DL and a ILB. And if we review this forum after the Philly playoff game last year and Barkley’s game well no one was disagreeing what this team needed. I don’t forget what we were saying………..

Frustrated over obvious misses? Well obvious is in the eyes of the beholder. I for one definitely wanted a Ford and Landman type players. I wanted them to extend Dotson and Jackson. I’m damn happy they signed Adams. I look at the positive they did do this off season while realizing you cant address every need………….

Finally I’m pissed at these players in this secondary for their continuous poor play. That is where I place the blame on them. Yep Ive come to the conclusion they just suck in their coverage talent but you would think at some point they would just be pissed at themselves and that would create better play from them…….
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Rams had a solid off-season. Q being injured, and lack of a solid replacement (who can wear a green dot) has hurt the Rams D. Rams did get solid depth for the front seven with DJ and Stewart. They also got Pooh, who was huge in helping to stop the run. Getting Landman was huge as well. Rams did address many of their holes on D except cb.

Rams could have used a starting db, but their draft board graded differently. They thought they could get solid play from the cbs that they already had if they secured the front 7. Rams secondary didn't play this bad last year. Maybe it was hidden bc the run defense was a bigger issue (which Ford and Landman helped fixed)

I didn't expect for the Rams secondary to be this bad.
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Cornell29 wrote: January 5th, 2026, 3:42 pm Rams had a solid off-season. Q being injured, and lack of a solid replacement (who can wear a green dot) has hurt the Rams D. Rams did get solid depth for the front seven with DJ and Stewart. They also got Pooh was huge in helping to stop the run. Getting Landman was huge as well. Rams did address many of their holes on D except cb.

Rams could have used a starting db, but their draft board graded differently. They thought they could get solid play from the cbs that they already had if they secured the front 7. Rams secondary didn't play this bad last year. Maybe it was hidden bc the run defense was a bigger issue (which Ford as help fixed)

I didn't expect for the Rams secondary to be this bad.
This^. Really well said……………
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