WTF is with Stafford?

[JerzyRam]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Still some doom and gloom, now focused toward Mcvay play calling and Stafford.

On the day the rams swept December, took first place of the NFC West, moved up to 2nd/3rd seed in NFL pending Dallas game, tied for 2nd best record in December and made the playoffs.

Some of us I guess are just damn weird…………

It’s not “gloom in doom” to expect your veteran QB not to throw into triple coverage or to make passes inside your own 20 when no one is open. Not to recognize when to just throw the ball away……………

It’s not “doom n gloom” to expect your HC to run the ball inside your own 10 yard line with a lead when your QB is struggling and your OL and RB is dominating like they were……….

No one is displeased with what you keep on bringing up. But some of us see that these mistakes mentioned have to be corrected when there is no next week or they are going to cost you the season…………

You continuously not wanting to acknowledge such…………..

Guilty conscience much? Cornell never even mentions you.

[NorCal RF]

Some of us I guess are just damn weird…………

It’s not “gloom in doom” to expect your veteran QB not to throw into triple coverage or to make passes inside your own 20 when no one is open. Not to recognize when to just throw the ball away……………

It’s not “doom n gloom” to expect your HC to run the ball inside your own 10 yard line with a lead when your QB is struggling and your OL and RB is dominating like they were……….

No one is displeased with what you keep on bringing up. But some of us see that these mistakes mentioned have to be corrected when there is no next week or they are going to cost you the season…………

You continuously not wanting to acknowledge such…………..

Guilty conscience much? Cornell never even mentions you.

Cornell n I have had how many comments in here compared to you………….

I think him and I know exactly what the two of us are/who referring to by now. And his isn’t just referencing me…………

And for neither of us it’s a “guilty conscience”. Again style of replies. His is one not to call out by poster. You would know this if………….

[JerzyRam]

Guilty conscience much? Cornell never even mentions you.

Cornell n I have had how many comments in here compared to you………….

I think him and I know exactly what the two of us are/who referring to by now. And his isn’t just referencing me…………

And for neither of us it’s a “guilty conscience”. Again style of replies. His is one not to call out by poster. You would know this if………….

If what? I’ve been a member here longer than you! Grow a backbone.

[Ants]

He made some ridiculous throws into coverage. Even befor the half he tried to force it to Kupp with three guys there.

That being said mcvay took the ball out of
Michel’s hands for no reason as MN did nothing to stop our running game.

Which is why the other thread suggests that McVay is stupid. :idea:

[Cornell29]

Guilty conscience much? Cornell never even mentions you.

Cornell n I have had how many comments in here compared to you………….

I think him and I know exactly what the two of us are/who referring to by now. And his isn’t just referencing me…………

And for neither of us it’s a “guilty conscience”. Again style of replies. His is one not to call out by poster. You would know this if………….

Actually I didn't make the post to anyone in particular. More of a sentiment I get from the board as a whole at times.

But yes we have had many nack and forth and good debates in the past. Since I enjoy debates, I appreciate it

[toast49]

Hmmm. 12 years of film. Hmmmm.

[armyram]

Should have been replaced with Wolfie...he was hung over and exhausted from xmas fam stuff.looked like he was paid to throw a game.

Uh No!

[armyram]

One thing about Stafford is no matter how much he screws up… he’s capable of making that one play to keep us in front or bring us back. Yes, he wasn’t good today. Imo, the play calling was atrocious and constantly put our defense in a bad position. I’m not saying McVay sucks, of course he doesn’t but I truly sat there dumb founded watching the game and at one time It did look like we were trying to lose the game. I think it was Micheal Irving on First take several weeks ago that said “McVay has to stop trying to prove to people why he traded for Stafford and run the damn ball” But he won’t. Seen this too many times

[NorCal RF]

Cornell n I have had how many comments in here compared to you………….

I think him and I know exactly what the two of us are/who referring to by now. And his isn’t just referencing me…………

And for neither of us it’s a “guilty conscience”. Again style of replies. His is one not to call out by poster. You would know this if………….

If what? I’ve been a member here longer than you! Grow a backbone.

I responded originally to Cornell not you. 400+ replies don’t need your two cents when it wasn’t asked for…….

Did you enjoy typing “grow a backbone” on your keyboard? LMAO!

[NorCal RF]

Cornell n I have had how many comments in here compared to you………….

I think him and I know exactly what the two of us are/who referring to by now. And his isn’t just referencing me…………

And for neither of us it’s a “guilty conscience”. Again style of replies. His is one not to call out by poster. You would know this if………….

Actually I didn't make the post to anyone in particular. More of a sentiment I get from the board as a whole at times.

But yes we have had many nack and forth and good debates in the past. Since I enjoy debates, I appreciate it

And I knew that Cornell. It’s someone else that didn’t………….

All good we both have our styles in here and we both know what each other’s are. I know you are that always full positive glass with this team. And you know I am a lot of the time also. But you also know I can’t ignore certain things I see with this team that concerns me at times…………

[Cornell29]

Stafford explained what happened with his three picks during the press conference.

The first one he said he should have just tried to run and get what he could get. He screwed up

The second one was topped which happens

The third one he was hit when he threw it.

[NorCal RF]

Stafford explained what happened with his three picks during the press conference.

The first one he said he should have just tried to run and get what he could get. He screwed up

The second one was topped which happens

The third one he was hit when he threw it.

I didn’t hear his comments………..

The second one I felt was going to still end up bad even if not tipped. Receiver targeted was well covered………….

Also had a issue with the incomplete pass in left corner of end zone to Kupp. 3 defenders there to Kupp. Very fortunate that wasn’t picked…….

Didn’t cost us today…………….

But………… He can play like this but still has the ability in the 4th to hit Kupp on a big gain and hit OBJ for a big TD. Not lost with me……………….

[JerzyRam]

If what? I’ve been a member here longer than you! Grow a backbone.

I responded originally to Cornell not you. 400+ replies don’t need your two cents when it wasn’t asked for…….

Did you enjoy typing “grow a backbone” on your keyboard? LMAO!

And I responded to you. Bc you have more posts, you’re a superior poster I guess. Someone that posts as much BS as you, should have thicker skin when called out. Carry on with your bad self though.

[GlendoraRam]

The thing I have noticed about Stafford, he never throws the ball away when it’s not there. Today, he missed some wide open throws and did forced it. But, he doesn’t get rid of the ball when it’s simply not there.

[Hacksaw]

Minnesota gamed planned against him a lot very recently..

He also needs to eat his Wheaties and throw the ball too long rather that too short..

[malibu]

What is bothering me is mental makeup especially on the int on the rollout where Minny ended up on our 7 or so. This is the second time this happened. This time he wasn't under duress he was flushed out of the pocket but he easily could see the wr and 3 defenders.

The deep shot to OBJ that he underthrew again he was not under duress he rolled out planted and threw but the ball was severely under thrown why is that?

All I want out of Stafford is consistency. What concerns me is his consistent bone head plays we got lucky yesterday we won't be that lucky in the playoffs.

[Cornell29]

What is bothering me is mental makeup especially on the int on the rollout where Minny ended up on our 7 or so. This is the second time this happened. This time he wasn't under duress he was flushed out of the pocket but he easily could see the wr and 3 defenders.

The deep shot to OBJ that he underthrew again he was not under duress he rolled out planted and threw but the ball was severely under thrown why is that?

All I want out of Stafford is consistency. What concerns me is his consistent bone head plays we got lucky yesterday we won't be that lucky in the playoffs.

Stafford, on the 1st int, said he screwed up. He should have ran and got what he could get.

Stafford said he misjudged OBJ depth.

He also pointed out how the rams only had two full practices over the last two weeks. I'm interested in seeing how he plays now that he will get a full practice this week.

[Bulldawg]

there is 3 elite qbs in this lg and then the very good spot...stafford is very good

This

He isnt Brady, Mahomes or Rodgers.(top tier)

But just as good as anyone in the next tier.

I am not even sure I would put Mahomes in top 3. He has had some absolute terrible games this year. Right now it is Aaron and everyone else.

[Rammer]

Stafford started the season hot and he got everyone excited. Since then, he’s been pretty average. So rather than improve as he acclimated to the new team, he has become the same guy he was with Detroit. This is who he always was. He was never elite, never even close. I don’t know why people expected more.

[eas-rams]

Stafford started the season hot and he got everyone excited. Since then, he’s been pretty average. So rather than improve as he acclimated to the new team, he has become the same guy he was with Detroit. This is who he always was. He was never elite, never even close. I don’t know why people expected more.

No he was never Elite. But he was always a Borderline Top-10 guy stuck on a bad team and Organization. The upgrade is worth it and clear to see.

I completely agree. By now it's evident he's not ELITE, he's not a guy who is going to win you a game down the stretch. But he is an upgrade and worth the trade - some of the throws he's made this year Goff could have never made. Can the Rams win a superbowl with Stafford ? In my opinion YES. But hopefully McVay uses play action, a running game, and takes advantage of an improved defense to "engineer" some playoff wins. I know Brady gets a lot of credit for winning last years superbowl but honestly that superbowl was on by a great defense and Ariens making adjustments to the offense to manage a better game plan that fit Brady. Hopefully McVay does the same thing. Stafford has looked his worse (bad sacks and interceptions) when he's in an empty backfield. That's on McVay.

[sanbagger]

No he was never Elite. But he was always a Borderline Top-10 guy stuck on a bad team and Organization. The upgrade is worth it and clear to see.

I completely agree. By now it's evident he's not ELITE, he's not a guy who is going to win you a game down the stretch. But he is an upgrade and worth the trade - some of the throws he's made this year Goff could have never made. Can the Rams win a superbowl with Stafford ? In my opinion YES. But hopefully McVay uses play action, a running game, and takes advantage of an improved defense to "engineer" some playoff wins. I know Brady gets a lot of credit for winning last years superbowl but honestly that superbowl was on by a great defense and Ariens making adjustments to the offense to manage a better game plan that fit Brady. Hopefully McVay does the same thing. Stafford has looked his worse (bad sacks and interceptions) when he's in an empty backfield. That's on McVay.

Completely disagree with this part...Stafford absolutely CAN win a playoff game...Stafford has a knock against him for being a streaky type QB and that streak can happen against any team.

[toast49]

I'd like to see how Stafford plays when the defense takes away Cupp. I think that may happen this week against the Ravens. Let's see

[Cornell29]

The INTs in bunches concern me. QBs will throw picks, but his come in multiples. Can't have it in the playoffs.

Agreed, but despite having those multiple int day tendencies, Eli and Favre both made the SB and won.

Time will tell. It's time for Stafford to prove it.

[Cornell29]

Agreed, but despite having those multiple int day tendencies, Eli and Favre both made the SB and won.

Time will tell. It's time for Saturday to prove it.

I'm just echoing what Jim Trotter is tweeting. 7 picks in 3 games for him, and 5 of those inside our own 20. That isn't including GB where he threw another pick 6. They won Sunday, but that game should have been a blowout. MN did nothing on offense until the mid 3rd quarter and they were gifted 10 points on picks deep in our zone.

Stafford ints are inexcusable, no doubt about it. It's now or almost never for Stafford. Time for him to take his game to another level for the playoffs. Stafford has the unique opportunity to rewrite his career. He can prove it was the Lions and not him for his past playoff failures. The narrative around him can be changed. Time to step up Stafford.

[malibu]

OP does nothing but complain. 15+ years of bitching.

Typical low rent poster. I am bringing up a serious question that is a good discussion.

Clearly I have posts all the time that are positive but you would not see that because you are so quick to cut someone down. Don't reply if you have nothing to say save all of us the time to read this type of post.

Lastly are posters not allowed to question what everyone can see as plain as day.

[Commish]

I'd like to see how Stafford plays when the defense takes away Cupp. I think that may happen this week against the Ravens. Let's see

Aren't the Ravens currently ranked 32nd (last) in the NFL in pass defense (yardage)...?? :o :?

ram pathos...

--The Commish

[Rampager66]

I'd like to see how Stafford plays when the defense takes away Cupp. I think that may happen this week against the Ravens. Let's see

Aren't the Ravens currently ranked 32nd (last) in the NFL in pass defense (yardage)...?? :o :?

ram pathos...

--The Commish

Yep and their top corner is out too.. We are catching them with many in the infirmary.... and should take full advantage of them... Like they did when they paid us a visit 2 years ago!

[Yorkshire Ram]

Stafford's a shot taker, he can have bad games and he can apparently also get rattled. He's been in the league long enough now for us to know what we were getting.

That said, he strikes me as a strong leader, has an arm as good as any on his day and gives us the best chance of winning the Superbowl of any QB that was apparently available at the time he was picked up.

We can back and forth about what it cost to get him but I don't think anyone can currently say that he's not a QB capable of winning the Superbowl this year?

When good he has been very good, it's now his challenge to play at his best in the coming games. If he does, we have a good shot at winning it all and at this point there's not much more that we can ask?

[Cornell29]

Aren't the Ravens currently ranked 32nd (last) in the NFL in pass defense (yardage)...?? :o :?

ram pathos...

--The Commish

Yep and their top corner is out too.. We are catching them with many in the infirmary.... and should take full advantage of them... Like they did when they paid us a visit 2 years ago!

Some of the Ravens will be returning from covid list, I believe.

[Rampager66]

Yep and their top corner is out too.. We are catching them with many in the infirmary.... and should take full advantage of them... Like they did when they paid us a visit 2 years ago!

Some of the Ravens will be returning from covid list, I believe.

Yeah true but they have 8 players on injured reserve
Marcus Peters is out, now their safety may not play but Marlon Humphry did play vs Cincy.. for what good it did..
Jacksons iffy, it's all part of the reason why they're in a swoon... From the No 1 AFC seed to out of the playoffs in 4 weeks...
They'll play tough, are @ home and well coached but we should not struggle here if we're on..

[malibu]

Only saw what I could get through Red Zone. Any chance he screwed up his hand on that mishandled snap in the 1st Quarter?

One int got tipped, the other he got hit and couldn't follow through. This isn't rocket science, it's a physical game. Bad things happen when a ball is ripped at the line, and when a QB can't follow through on his throw. Some here are acting as though he's just making bad throw after bad throw. It's not the case.

That's not what happened only the tip is right. The deep ball to ObJ was a roll out he wasn't touched until after the throw. The other int was he wasn't hit after the throw the throw was way too low and no loft on the throw to get it over the three defenders. He should have thrown it away. Not sure why McVay didn't call a run instead of a low percentage pass.

Btw on 3rd and 2 Stafford rolled out again and underthrew OBJ on a deep crosser.

He is streaky and that's what scares me.