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This might be setting up really nice for the Rams.

All indicators are the Rams are very interested in Manning. We know from Eli's situation that the Mannings like to be in control of where they play. I don't see any good reason why a top tier QB wouldn't want to play under McVay in the bright lights of Hollywood.

I just read where his grandfather Archie said he believes Arch will remain in school for another year or two. With multiple #1 picks in next years draft, we can potentially trade back in order to gain even more first round picks and make it really easy to move up for Manning when the time comes.

At this point we really don't know how he will do in the NFL since he has barely played in college. BUT, given his pedigree and if McVay really thinks that highly of him, I believe it could be another Andy Reid/Patrick Mahomes type of situation.

I'm not sure where everyone else's thoughts are on this but it's never too early to start thinking about the future. We all know a Manning and McVay relationships would put butts in the seats and we can all see that Stafford is starting to show his age. If he retires after this season it may set us up for a losing season with multiple first round draft picks to boot, just in time for Manning.
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Rams I always said can trade 3 firsts potentially next draft. The two they have and a 2027 first. Of course a lot depends on where their picks sit and who is coming out. This screams future QB. However, I don’t think they’ll draft someone to draft someone or force a move up like they did in 2016 for Goff (when they wanted to make a splash).

To throw water on this. If he’s for real, no one will give up the first no matter how much Manning would want to play for McVay.
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NN1Badboy wrote: August 7th, 2025, 9:20 pm This might be setting up really nice for the Rams.

All indicators are the Rams are very interested in Manning. We know from Eli's situation that the Mannings like to be in control of where they play. I don't see any good reason why a top tier QB wouldn't want to play under McVay in the bright lights of Hollywood.

I just read where his grandfather Archie said he believes Arch will remain in school for another year or two. With multiple #1 picks in next years draft, we can potentially trade back in order to gain even more first round picks and make it really easy to move up for Manning when the time comes.

At this point we really don't know how he will do in the NFL since he has barely played in college. BUT, given his pedigree and if McVay really thinks that highly of him, I believe it could be another Andy Reid/Patrick Mahomes type of situation.

I'm not sure where everyone else's thoughts are on this but it's never too early to start thinking about the future. We all know a Manning and McVay relationships would put butts in the seats and we can all see that Stafford is starting to show his age. If he retires after this season it may set us up for a losing season with multiple first round draft picks to boot, just in time for Manning.
Sounds good but what about next year? Jimmy?
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Jacksnow wrote: August 8th, 2025, 5:11 am
NN1Badboy wrote: August 7th, 2025, 9:20 pm This might be setting up really nice for the Rams.

All indicators are the Rams are very interested in Manning. We know from Eli's situation that the Mannings like to be in control of where they play. I don't see any good reason why a top tier QB wouldn't want to play under McVay in the bright lights of Hollywood.

I just read where his grandfather Archie said he believes Arch will remain in school for another year or two. With multiple #1 picks in next years draft, we can potentially trade back in order to gain even more first round picks and make it really easy to move up for Manning when the time comes.

At this point we really don't know how he will do in the NFL since he has barely played in college. BUT, given his pedigree and if McVay really thinks that highly of him, I believe it could be another Andy Reid/Patrick Mahomes type of situation.

I'm not sure where everyone else's thoughts are on this but it's never too early to start thinking about the future. We all know a Manning and McVay relationships would put butts in the seats and we can all see that Stafford is starting to show his age. If he retires after this season it may set us up for a losing season with multiple first round draft picks to boot, just in time for Manning.
Sounds good but what about next year? Jimmy?
I think so. I think McVay is 100% setting things up for Jimmy to be the Stop gap for a year or two.
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I have gained a lot of respect for Jimmy over the past year. I underappreciated his talent and thought he was just a poser.
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If Arch were to have a monster year this year and a Heisman finalist, i dont think there's any way he plays another year. Just my 2 cents. Like another previous poster said. No way a top 3 drafting team sells their fan base out by trading the pick for multiple 1s. Gotta hope there are 3 or 4 studs in next years draft.

If there is multiple blue chips in the draft, and Arch is staying one more year, the Rams would be CRAZY to hedge their bet that they could get him the following year while passing up on their next QB.
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I really think we need to see how he does this season... sure, he seems to have everything... but lets see how he handles his first big test (and boy it's a DOOZY) opening up again Ohio St, then Red River and then being @ Georgia... lets see how this kid handles pressure.

Of course it would be wise (very wise) to try and put us in the position to grab him if we can, but so much needs to happen. Atlanta needs to fall flat, and hopefully the first couple of teams in the draft DO NOT need a QB... because if we do this, I see 2016 all over again. If you recall, we gave up TWO first round pics (each in different years) , TWO second round picks and TWO third rounders (each in different years)... that trade was just insane, but it about paid off (till Goff did a goof, and fell flat in the SB).

So, let's see how the kid does, but I am all in favor of moving Mountains to get him, if the juice is worth the squeeze. (like Bulldawgs mom)
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Grandpa was on sports talk 2 days ago stating Arch is staying in school for 2 yrs. As Colin Cowherd said and I agree with him it's all part of the business right now. If Arch goes off this year he would be an idiot not to go into the draft. The Manning's will try to control the draft so the interesting part is how many teams will they ban from drafting Arch?
But let's not get ahead of ourselves. He has to have a good yr at Texas first
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Arch is staying in, its the manning way, he doesn't need the money his family is rich, he has beacoupe NIL, which Peyton and Eli didn't have. It's foolish for the Rams to make franchise changing moves in the hopes to land one guy 2 years from now. the odds are stacked against them, teams drafting first usually draft a qb, who wants to be the gm that passes on Arch if he's a stud? Lets hope ATL sucks, and go all in for the best QB in 2026, hopefully he gets a year with Stafford and Jimmy, while we can still afford Verse and Puka
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Guy controlling where they go in draft no long applies with rookie scale set wages. This was a power move back in day when guys could sign for unlimited money and could threaten hold outs. Manning can stay in school if he doesn't like who falls to one, but his family will have little say in where he goes.

I have no clue on any QBs for 2026, but Rams have to thinkg about next QB. Rest of roster is young and Stafford isn't young. Jimmy G is even 33.
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We need to draft the best QB available to us in 2026. Hopefully we get another year out of Stafford. Let's see how Young Arch does in the SEC this fall.

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SoCalRam78 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 9:20 am Guy controlling where they go in draft no long applies with rookie scale set wages. This was a power move back in day when guys could sign for unlimited money and could threaten hold outs. Manning can stay in school if he doesn't like who falls to one, but his family will have little say in where he goes.

I have no clue on any QBs for 2026, but Rams have to thinkg about next QB. Rest of roster is young and Stafford isn't young. Jimmy G is even 33.
has nothing to do with money but has everything to do with going to the right franchise. If you think the Manning family is going to allow Cleveland to draft Arch you are crazy. They will control the destination of where he goes just watch
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ocram23 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 9:43 am
SoCalRam78 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 9:20 am Guy controlling where they go in draft no long applies with rookie scale set wages. This was a power move back in day when guys could sign for unlimited money and could threaten hold outs. Manning can stay in school if he doesn't like who falls to one, but his family will have little say in where he goes.

I have no clue on any QBs for 2026, but Rams have to thinkg about next QB. Rest of roster is young and Stafford isn't young. Jimmy G is even 33.
has nothing to do with money but has everything to do with going to the right franchise. If you think the Manning family is going to allow Cleveland to draft Arch you are crazy. They will control the destination of where he goes just watch
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ocram23 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 9:43 am
SoCalRam78 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 9:20 am Guy controlling where they go in draft no long applies with rookie scale set wages. This was a power move back in day when guys could sign for unlimited money and could threaten hold outs. Manning can stay in school if he doesn't like who falls to one, but his family will have little say in where he goes.

I have no clue on any QBs for 2026, but Rams have to thinkg about next QB. Rest of roster is young and Stafford isn't young. Jimmy G is even 33.
has nothing to do with money but has everything to do with going to the right franchise. If you think the Manning family is going to allow Cleveland to draft Arch you are crazy. They will control the destination of where he goes just watch
His only control is staying in school. I acknowledged that. But if Cle had the first pick in 2027 and needed a QB, they’ll draft him and there’s little to nothing he can do besides playing in the CFL. They can’t force a franchise to trade him. Not happening. Let me know of any player who has pulled this power move with the new cba since it came about in the early 2010s. None. Guys back in day did these holdouts when they could sign for any amount of money. Remember Rocket Ismail in the CFL? Crybaby ass QB Caleb Williams moaned and groaned and still went to Chicago and signed.
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SoCalRam78 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 11:08 am
ocram23 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 9:43 am

has nothing to do with money but has everything to do with going to the right franchise. If you think the Manning family is going to allow Cleveland to draft Arch you are crazy. They will control the destination of where he goes just watch
His only control is staying in school. I acknowledged that. But if Cle had the first pick in 2027 and needed a QB, they’ll draft him and there’s little to nothing he can do besides playing in the CFL. They can’t force a franchise to trade him. Not happening. Let me know of any player who has pulled this power move with the new cba since it came about in the early 2010s. None. Guys back in day did these holdouts when they could sign for any amount of money. Remember Rocket Ismail in the CFL? Crybaby ass QB Caleb Williams moaned and groaned and still went to Chicago and signed.
bro you are 100% wrong on this. They can tell the Browns we aren't coming, just like Archie did with the Chargers back in the day. Deion would have done this and actually tried but overplayed his hand because he didn't realize his kid was a 1st round pick. Archie did this with Eli because he didn't want him going to the Chargers not because of money.
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Eli Manning refused to play for the San Diego Chargers if they drafted him in the 2004 NFL Draft. He expressed his desire to avoid playing for the Chargers organization due to concerns about their structure. This led to the Chargers selecting him first overall and then immediately trading him to the New York Giants.

While Manning didn't publicly detail specific issues with the Chargers organization at the time, his father, Archie Manning, later revealed that he had concerns about the team's ability to build a winning environment. The Chargers' handling of Ryan Leaf, another high-profile quarterback who struggled with personal issues, also factored into the Mannings' decision.
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therealheadslap75 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 9:10 am Arch is staying in, its the manning way, he doesn't need the money his family is rich, he has beacoupe NIL, which Peyton and Eli didn't have. It's foolish for the Rams to make franchise changing moves in the hopes to land one guy 2 years from now. the odds are stacked against them, teams drafting first usually draft a qb, who wants to be the gm that passes on Arch if he's a stud? Lets hope ATL sucks, and go all in for the best QB in 2026, hopefully he gets a year with Stafford and Jimmy, while we can still afford Verse and Puka

^^^ this 100%. The Rams need their future Qb to be in the 26 draft. It "appears" as though the may be 3-4 good ones, but we all know how THAT can go. Definitely need Atlanta to suck.
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Ramsfan08ny wrote: August 8th, 2025, 1:48 pm
therealheadslap75 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 9:10 am Arch is staying in, its the manning way, he doesn't need the money his family is rich, he has beacoupe NIL, which Peyton and Eli didn't have. It's foolish for the Rams to make franchise changing moves in the hopes to land one guy 2 years from now. the odds are stacked against them, teams drafting first usually draft a qb, who wants to be the gm that passes on Arch if he's a stud? Lets hope ATL sucks, and go all in for the best QB in 2026, hopefully he gets a year with Stafford and Jimmy, while we can still afford Verse and Puka

^^^ this 100%. The Rams need their future Qb to be in the 26 draft. It "appears" as though the may be 3-4 good ones, but we all know how THAT can go. Definitely need Atlanta to suck.
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So a bunch of stories from decades ago as I said.
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I know I'm going against the grain here but i think the RAMs are in win now mode.. I wouldn't be surprised if they used that drat capital on a proven vet.
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DVA_ram33 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 7:54 pm I know I'm going against the grain here but i think the RAMs are in win now mode.. I wouldn't be surprised if they used that drat capital on a proven vet.
couple scenarios that could happen:
ATL shits the bed and we have a top 5 pick
Rams shit the bed and have a top 5 pick.....highly unlikely
ATL and Rams do well and Rams 1st round picks are mid to late in the 1st round
Rams have to trade both picks to move high up in the draft.

Bottom line is yes they are obviously going to try and win this year. 2026 draft is not priority obviously. I also believe Arch has to play well this year to even worry about this. Plus then you add the fact this is going to be a good QB draft so who knows maybe someone else steps up. Just a thought
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ocram23 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 8:05 pm
DVA_ram33 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 7:54 pm I know I'm going against the grain here but i think the RAMs are in win now mode.. I wouldn't be surprised if they used that drat capital on a proven vet.
couple scenarios that could happen:
ATL shits the bed and we have a top 5 pick
Rams shit the bed and have a top 5 pick.....highly unlikely
ATL and Rams do well and Rams 1st round picks are mid to late in the 1st round
Rams have to trade both picks to move high up in the draft.

Bottom line is yes they are obviously going to try and win this year. 2026 draft is not priority obviously. I also believe Arch has to play well this year to even worry about this. Plus then you add the fact this is going to be a good QB draft so who knows maybe someone else steps up. Just a thought
True this year. But if Staffords back continues to be a problem, he could retire. I don't think Jimmy G's contract goes past this year. A year with Stetson Bennett under center and we might have the top pick anyway. It was just a thought. Maybe it won't happen, but i've seen the Rams pull a rabbit out of the hat before.
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NN1Badboy wrote: August 9th, 2025, 4:28 am
But if Staffords back continues to be a problem, he could retire. I don't think Jimmy G's contract goes past this year.
So you don't believe that Jimmy Garoppolo would re-sign with our team if he had the chance to be its starting QB next season...?? :? :roll: :?:

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Commish wrote: August 9th, 2025, 12:11 pm
NN1Badboy wrote: August 9th, 2025, 4:28 am
But if Staffords back continues to be a problem, he could retire. I don't think Jimmy G's contract goes past this year.
So you don't believe that Jimmy Garoppolo would re-sign with our team if he had the chance to be its starting QB next season...?? :? :roll: :?:

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NN1Badboy wrote: August 9th, 2025, 4:28 am
ocram23 wrote: August 8th, 2025, 8:05 pm

couple scenarios that could happen:
ATL shits the bed and we have a top 5 pick
Rams shit the bed and have a top 5 pick.....highly unlikely
ATL and Rams do well and Rams 1st round picks are mid to late in the 1st round
Rams have to trade both picks to move high up in the draft.

Bottom line is yes they are obviously going to try and win this year. 2026 draft is not priority obviously. I also believe Arch has to play well this year to even worry about this. Plus then you add the fact this is going to be a good QB draft so who knows maybe someone else steps up. Just a thought
True this year. But if Staffords back continues to be a problem, he could retire. I don't think Jimmy G's contract goes past this year. A year with Stetson Bennett under center and we might have the top pick anyway. It was just a thought. Maybe it won't happen, but i've seen the Rams pull a rabbit out of the hat before.
I think Staff will be fine. I think we have better luck with ATL's pick being better than ours
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I don’t think two mid round 1sts will be enough to move up into the top 5. If the Rams want Arch I think they will need to give up at 3 future 1sts.
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Has anyone even considered the possibility that Arch and his family may put the kabosh on the Rams, ala Chargers? So we better hope there are 3 or 4 other standouts.
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Utah Rams Fan wrote: August 10th, 2025, 11:00 pm Has anyone even considered the possibility that Arch and his family may put the kabosh on the Rams, ala Chargers? So we better hope there are 3 or 4 other standouts.
Maybe if we were still in the doldrums of St. Louis.

But now, no way. LA has a winning culture, the best coach in the NFL, the best stadium in the NFL, a top 5 FO, a player centric environment. If anything, Manning Corp. would try to get him to the Rams.
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49RH8R wrote: August 10th, 2025, 11:34 pm
Utah Rams Fan wrote: August 10th, 2025, 11:00 pm Has anyone even considered the possibility that Arch and his family may put the kabosh on the Rams, ala Chargers? So we better hope there are 3 or 4 other standouts.
Maybe if we were still in the doldrums of St. Louis.

But now, no way. LA has a winning culture, the best coach in the NFL, the best stadium in the NFL, a top 5 FO, a player centric environment. If anything, Manning Corp. would try to get him to the Rams.
This is what I was thinking too. I realize we want to win a Super Bowl now. I think we have a good shot at it, depending on Stafford's back issues.

It looks like OL, DB and QB will be our biggest needs going into next years draft. I know it's a long shot but if Atlanta has a bad season and we end up with a top ten pick from them next year we could trade that for future first round picks and still draft OL or CB with our own pick.

All i'm saying is whatever draft capitol we pick up from Atlanta plus our own first in 2027 (could be high if Stafford retires) and possibly another first in 2028 could provide us the flexibility we need to move up in the draft if we decided to go that direction.
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Truth wrote: August 10th, 2025, 7:30 pm I don’t think two mid round 1sts will be enough to move up into the top 5. If the Rams want Arch I think they will need to give up at 3 future 1sts.
So 2 first this year and the 3 future first?
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