Week - 7 (Other Games)

[Cornell29]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Meh. They all fumble.

But if it happens in the playoffs the issue will be magnified.

They all fumble, but at different rates. KW has 10 fumbles and Gibbs has 3. That’s more than three times as many.

No where near as explosive. At least if he was explosive, I could live with some of these fumbles but he isn't.

[Rampager66]

To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...

[Cornell29]

To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...

But 3 times as many fumbles despite not having 3 times the amount of carries

[brasilrams]

They all fumble, but at different rates. KW has 10 fumbles and Gibbs has 3. That’s more than three times as many.

No where near as explosive. At least if he was explosive, I could live with some of these fumbles but he isn't.

Yup. Not as fast , not as explosive , not the same vision , not the same moves . Just can't compare a kia to a ferrari .

[Rampager66]

They all fumble, but at different rates. KW has 10 fumbles and Gibbs has 3. That’s more than three times as many.

No where near as explosive. At least if he was explosive, I could live with some of these fumbles but he isn't.

Exactly. KW has never given us a 78 yard TD run like we saw from Gibbs tonight. Run or Catch!

[Cornell29]

No where near as explosive. At least if he was explosive, I could live with some of these fumbles but he isn't.

Exactly. KW has never given us a 78 yard TD run like we saw from Gibbs tonight. Run or Catch!

KW would have got 20 yards on that play, tops. Might have fumbled too

[HellRam]

To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...

Williams does fumble too much but its overblown.

Hell, Faulk fumbled 8 times in one season once.

Henry has 23 career fumbles.

Most RBs fumble 2/3 times a year.

That's football.

[brasilrams]

To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...

But 3 times as many fumbles despite not having 3 times the amount of carries

If you give gibbs another 167 carries he would maybe have ONE more fumble ( he is fumbling ONCE every 173 carries ) actually...not even one..... Even with 686 carries he would still have 3 fumbles ( close to 4 , but still 3 )

[Cornell29]

To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...

Williams does fumble too much but its overblown.

Hell, Faulk fumbled 8 times in one season once.

Henry has 23 career fumbles.

Most RBs fumble 2/3 times a year.

That's football.

All more explosive players than KW

KW lacks explosiveness to go with his poor handle

[DelMar]

I have always said that Gibbs is just insane. Him and Montgomery are by far the best RB duo in the league.

I would take Gibbs over Barkley, Taylor, and Henry.

Looking at Gibbs, you can really see how mediocre KW is. I wonder when the Rams will have real talent at the RB position. After having guys like Faulk, Dickerson, Steven Jackson, and Gurley… we settle for KW. Nice kid, but at the same time, so mediocre. I don’t even remember the last time he had a run longer than 15 yards.

If the Rams had Gibbs...

Wow

Definitely be undefeated right now

Seriously this guy is a game changer. Man, outstanding RB.

[brasilrams]

Exactly. KW has never given us a 78 yard TD run like we saw from Gibbs tonight. Run or Catch!

KW would have got 20 yards on that play, tops. Might have fumbled too

LOL true

[Rampager66]

To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...

But 3 times as many fumbles despite not having 3 times the amount of carries

I wasn't arguing with you, only being fair. Maybe we get 1 or 2 more fumbles from Gibbs in the 1 less year. He's averaging 1 a year!

[HellRam]

Williams does fumble too much but its overblown.

Hell, Faulk fumbled 8 times in one season once.

Henry has 23 career fumbles.

Most RBs fumble 2/3 times a year.

That's football.

All more explosive players than KW

KW lacks explosiveness to go with his poor handle

Williams forte isn't explosiveness

Its being a complete back who can recieve, block and gain tough yards. If Williams was a top 10 pick. You'd have a argument.

Your argument is dumb based off what Williams is supposed to be.

[Rampager66]

Williams does fumble too much but its overblown.

Hell, Faulk fumbled 8 times in one season once.

Henry has 23 career fumbles.

Most RBs fumble 2/3 times a year.

That's football.

All more explosive players than KW

KW lacks explosiveness to go with his poor handle

Didn't Marshall also score 15 TD's combined that year too tho?

[brasilrams]

But 3 times as many fumbles despite not having 3 times the amount of carries

I wasn't arguing with you, only being fair. Maybe we get 1 or 2 more fumbles from Gibbs in the 1 less year. He's averaging 1 a year!

We got it , the number of carries needs to be taken into consideration of course ...but like I said ...with 686 carries Gibbs would still have 3 fumbles or 4 at the most against KW's 10 . Like Cornell said , we could live with the fumbles if he was such a playmaker like Gybbs which he is not , obviously .

[HellRam]

All more explosive players than KW

KW lacks explosiveness to go with his poor handle

Didn't Marshall also score 15 TD's combined that year too tho?

And Willams had 16 last year!

[Cornell29]

All more explosive players than KW

KW lacks explosiveness to go with his poor handle

Williams forte isn't explosiveness

Its being a complete back who can recieve, block and gain tough yards. If Williams was a top 10 pick. You'd have a argument.

Your argument is dumb based off what Williams is supposed to be.

You are the one comparing him to Faulk and Henry.

If you are going to compare you need to compare the entire package.

KW is your guy, that's fine.

[brasilrams]

All more explosive players than KW

KW lacks explosiveness to go with his poor handle

Williams forte isn't explosiveness

Its being a complete back who can recieve, block and gain tough yards. If Williams was a top 10 pick. You'd have a argument.

Your argument is dumb based off what Williams is supposed to be.

He is pretty good for a 4th round pick . I will agree here . Maybe it is time for the rams to have REAL talent at the rb position and draft one in the first round.

[HellRam]

Williams forte isn't explosiveness

Its being a complete back who can recieve, block and gain tough yards. If Williams was a top 10 pick. You'd have a argument.

Your argument is dumb based off what Williams is supposed to be.

You are the one comparing him to Faulk and Henry.

If you are going to compare you need to compare the entire package.

KW is your guy, that's fine.

No I'm comparing fumble rates.

Quit the strawman. I can do straw man too. Are you saying McVay doesn't know RBs since we resigned him?

And yes, I am a Kyren fan. Dude has been a solid C+/B- back for us.

Everything isn't black and white. You can give props to Williams and still acknowledge his faults and limitations.

[Cornell29]

You are the one comparing him to Faulk and Henry.

If you are going to compare you need to compare the entire package.

KW is your guy, that's fine.

No I'm comparing fumble rates.

Quit the strawman. I can do straw man too. Are you saying McVay doesn't know RBs since we résigner him?

And yes, I am a Kyren fan. Dude has been a solid C+/B- back for us.

Everything isn't black and white. You can give props to Williams and still acknowledge his faults and limitations.

KW does deserve props. He was a good find in the 5th round. With that said he still fumbles too much and lack explosiveness. Do you disagree with that statement?

[Rampager66]

Didn't Marshall also score 15 TD's combined that year too tho?

And Willams had 16 last year!

Actually I looked it up

Faulk had Over 1000 yards rushing and receiving yards the year he fumbled 8 times and scored 18 Rushing TDS and 8 Receiving TDS.
And then there's this... No KW near any of it.

Marshall Faulk! NFL records
Fastest player to gain 16,000 yards from scrimmage: 129 games
Fastest player to gain 17,000 yards from scrimmage: 142 games
Fastest player to gain 1,000 yards from scrimmage in a season: 6 (1083 yards in 2000, tied with Jim Brown)[34]
Most two point conversions, career: 7[35]
Most consecutive seasons with 2,000 yards from scrimmage: 4
Most consecutive seasons with 5+ rushing touchdowns: 10 (1994–2003, tied with LaDainian Tomlinson)
Most consecutive games with 4+ touchdowns: 2 (tied with Jim Taylor and LaDainian Tomlinson)
Most receiving yards by a running back in a season: 1,048
Most consecutive games with a reception by a running back (min. 5 carries per game): 158[36]
Most games with 200 yards from scrimmage: 14
Most games with 250 yards from scrimmage: 5
Most games with both a rushing and receiving touchdown, career: 15
Only player with 70+ rushing TDs and 30+ receiving TDs
Only player with 12,000 yards rushing and 6,000 yards receiving in a career
Only player to have 200 yards receiving and 50 yards rushing in the same game - December 26, 1999
Only player to have 200 yards receiving and 10 rushing attempts in the same game - December 26, 1999

[HellRam]

No I'm comparing fumble rates.

Quit the strawman. I can do straw man too. Are you saying McVay doesn't know RBs since we résigner him?

And yes, I am a Kyren fan. Dude has been a solid C+/B- back for us.

Everything isn't black and white. You can give props to Williams and still acknowledge his faults and limitations.

KW does deserve props. He was a good find in the 5th round. With that said he still fumbles too much and lack explosiveness. Do you disagree with that statement?

Yes! He's been a productive RB who is probably a top 10/12 ish RB. From a production standpoint he has been a top 8 RB in rush yards the last 3 seasons.

The stats don't lie.

Obviously, he's not as explosive as a 1st round RB. But like I said, his game isn't based off explosiveness. And yes he fumbles too much.

Sounds like your issue is with McVay. Not me,I'm just stating facts. I'm not the one who signed him and made him starter lol.

[HellRam]

And Willams had 16 last year!

Actually I looked it up

Faulk had Over 1000 yards rushing and receiving yards the year he fumbled 8 times and scored 18 Rushing TDS and 8 Receiving TDS.
And then there's this... No KW near any of it.

Marshall Faulk! NFL records
Fastest player to gain 16,000 yards from scrimmage: 129 games
Fastest player to gain 17,000 yards from scrimmage: 142 games
Fastest player to gain 1,000 yards from scrimmage in a season: 6 (1083 yards in 2000, tied with Jim Brown)[34]
Most two point conversions, career: 7[35]
Most consecutive seasons with 2,000 yards from scrimmage: 4
Most consecutive seasons with 5+ rushing touchdowns: 10 (1994–2003, tied with LaDainian Tomlinson)
Most consecutive games with 4+ touchdowns: 2 (tied with Jim Taylor and LaDainian Tomlinson)
Most receiving yards by a running back in a season: 1,048
Most consecutive games with a reception by a running back (min. 5 carries per game): 158[36]
Most games with 200 yards from scrimmage: 14
Most games with 250 yards from scrimmage: 5
Most games with both a rushing and receiving touchdown, career: 15
Only player with 70+ rushing TDs and 30+ receiving TDs
Only player with 12,000 yards rushing and 6,000 yards receiving in a career
Only player to have 200 yards receiving and 50 yards rushing in the same game - December 26, 1999
Only player to have 200 yards receiving and 10 rushing attempts in the same game - December 26, 1999

Nobody is comparing the two.

Faulk is a HOF

Williams is a better than average RB. Top 10 ish guy but not great at anything.

[Cornell29]

KW does deserve props. He was a good find in the 5th round. With that said he still fumbles too much and lack explosiveness. Do you disagree with that statement?

Yes! He's been a productive RB who is probably a top 10/12 ish RB. From a production standpoint he has been a top 8 RB in rush yards the last 3 seasons.

The stats don't lie.

Obviously, he's not as explosive as a 1st round RB. But like I said, his game isn't based off explosiveness. And yes he fumbles too much.

Sounds like your issue is with McVay. Not me,I'm just stating facts. I'm not the one who signed him and made him starter lol.

Ok so we agree. He isnt explosive and he fumbles too much but he is a productive back and good find in the 5th round

[Rampager66]

Nobody is comparing the two.

Faulk is a HOF

Williams is a better than average RB. Top 10 ish guy but not great at anything.

You did exactly that, you compared fumbles. And Sorry, KW is not a top 10 Back... He's sufficient for what Sean likes to do!

[HellRam]

Yes! He's been a productive RB who is probably a top 10/12 ish RB. From a production standpoint he has been a top 8 RB in rush yards the last 3 seasons.

The stats don't lie.

Obviously, he's not as explosive as a 1st round RB. But like I said, his game isn't based off explosiveness. And yes he fumbles too much.

Sounds like your issue is with McVay. Not me,I'm just stating facts. I'm not the one who signed him and made him starter lol.

Ok so we agree. He isnt explosive and he fumbles too much but he is a productive back and good find in the 5th round

Why would we not agree?

I'm just tired of everyone ragging on a guy who's been solid for us.

This fan base is wierd with some things. They either love or hate the players. No nuance or compromise.

[HellRam]

Nobody is comparing the two.

Faulk is a HOF

Williams is a better than average RB. Top 10 ish guy but not great at anything.

You did exactly that, you compared fumbles. And Sorry, KW is not a top 10 Back... He's sufficient for what Sean likes to do!

Name ten better RBs...

[HellRam]

I think he's fringe top 10. Realistically probably top 12.

But from a production standpoint he's been top 10

[Rampager66]

You did exactly that, you compared fumbles. And Sorry, KW is not a top 10 Back... He's sufficient for what Sean likes to do!

Name ten better RBs...

I don't need to, you made the claim first, you support your claim first. So far all we have is you said so.

[Rampager66]

I think he's fringe top 10. Realistically probably top 12.

But from a production standpoint he's been top 10

That was some production vs the 9ers!

Lost fumble on the 9er 1 and 30 yard lines and failed to convert 4th and inches inside their 20.

[HellRam]

Name ten better RBs...

I don't need to, you made the claim first, you support your claim first. So far all we have is you said so.

The fuck are you talking about.....?

This where Williams was ranked the last 3 season in rush yards.

2023: 3rd in the NFL
2024: 7th in the NFL
2025: 9th in NFL this year

Again, from a production standpoint he's been pretty good. I called him a C+/B- RB. I think thats more than fair. There are probably 10 to 12 backs better than him.

You don't think he's deserving of such? Fine, you dont have to agree.But atleast I'm backing up my point with data as to why I think he's a top 10/12 ish guy. In my opinion.