Wolfie in trouble?

[Raminec]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Amazingly long thread for a backup QB that hopefully will never see the field after preseason games if all goes well with the Rams season. Have no problem with Wolford as a backup but really hope Rams don’t need him to actually win a meaningful game. Stafford is the man now. May he stay healthy all season and lead the Rams to the playoffs and beyond the second round at minimum.

[brasilrams]

All good , I can say the same thing , excuse me from trusting mcvay that goff is no good . He wouldn't have moved mountains and traded him if he thought he could get the job done right ? so yeah , I am guessing I am sticking with mcvay's opinion over an internet poster that loves goff or even Dan Campbell .

I'm not arguing for Goff , just the silly notion that Wolford took his job because of how both played. And I've never denied that McVay has lost his confidence in him. I hope it doesn't come back to bite us with all we gave up to acquire Goff and then move him. Thats been my thing thru all of this. Who is or isn't on the roster is out of my hands so I don't get too worked up about it like others seem to.
And sorry. I should have said the Lions new GM and VP Brad Holmes. I thought they hired him as a coach. Shows how much I don't care about the Lions.. He as the former head of our scouting department is a solid judge on that and he's pretty high on Goff. For the Lions sake, he better be right...

All good . Just different opinions .I do think wolford had something to do with it . Maybe mcvay had already decided to ship goff even before wolford played - yes , maybe - but watching everything that wolford bought to the team that IMO , goff was lacking ( intensity ,leadership , agressivness , mobility , passion etc ) may have reinforced the desire to move him . We can't know for sure . And yup , we will see how it pans out for the lions , I agree that Brad Holmes might believe in GOFF , at least , to some extent . That doesn't mean he is right . If I had to BET , he is about the regret that decision soon enough.

[brasilrams]

Welp.....

This thread went nuts... (actually, that is an understatement). 11 rows all from just stating that Wolfie could be in trouble because Perkins is turning heads.

I love the offseason. This is some great reading material. I love you all, very much.

On a much lighter note....Im heading over to Sofi soon to get some gear at 'the equipment room'. 7500 SQFT of Rams stuff (called and they have a ton of the good old school stuff, solid horns, old school Jerseys. Etc). Ill let you know how it goes...

https://www.sofistadium.com/equipment-room/

You are my man dm ! :mrgreen:

[Yorkshire Ram]

Eleven pages of intense debate, no one backed down, no one fell out and no ejections. Well played everyone.

[RamPower]

Lol, not fluff pieces such as your opinion for instance

Show me something from any source to the contrary...your response was so predicable obviously. Again just more "fluff" opinion.

No what's predictable is you being wrong per usual.

You said you would provide a link stating our oline played so much worse for Wolford then they did Goff. And obviously you couldn't find a link stating such so you turn it around on me like you always so.

Don't get mad me because your hero Wolford is a average back up bro. I don't know what to tell ya, I really dont.

Who's mad?

Speaking of wrong as usual, you won't ever give up regardless how little knowledge you provide - that's a long-time given. You have NEVER been the first to end a thread obviously…just attack with your eventual straw man stabs and distraction technique, while ever claims of "facts".

There are lots of respected sources (along with fans here of course) indicating that Wolford played well vs. AZ (yes, clearly offensive MVP). Then there's you and a handful of differing opinions from this forum. That's fine, but again nothing provided by you from anybody remotely credible from an outside source to assist your view (gosh I wonder why?) …like a head coach for instance. You are weak in this thread is the plain truth. So yeah, just gaslight away like usual

[RamPower]

Amazingly long thread for a backup QB that hopefully will never see the field after preseason games if all goes well with the Rams season. Have no problem with Wolford as a backup but really hope Rams don’t need him to actually win a meaningful game. Stafford is the man now. May he stay healthy all season and lead the Rams to the playoffs and beyond the second round at minimum.

NO ONE, wants to see Wolford

Well maybe Safety....

Yep. And nobody thinks Wolford should start, or that he's a top back-up at this point. At least I haven't heard anyone say that. He's a Ram back-up that we hope performs well like everyone else on the roster. A player to both criticize and approve of depending on game outcomes. That's all.

[Rampager66]

I'm not arguing for Goff , just the silly notion that Wolford took his job because of how both played. And I've never denied that McVay has lost his confidence in him. I hope it doesn't come back to bite us with all we gave up to acquire Goff and then move him. Thats been my thing thru all of this. Who is or isn't on the roster is out of my hands so I don't get too worked up about it like others seem to.
And sorry. I should have said the Lions new GM and VP Brad Holmes. I thought they hired him as a coach. Shows how much I don't care about the Lions.. He as the former head of our scouting department is a solid judge on that and he's pretty high on Goff. For the Lions sake, he better be right...

All good . Just different opinions .I do think wolford had something to do with it . Maybe mcvay had already decided to ship goff even before wolford played - yes , maybe - but watching everything that wolford bought to the team that IMO , goff was lacking ( intensity ,leadership , agressivness , mobility , passion etc ) may have reinforced the desire to move him . We can't know for sure . And yup , we will see how it pans out for the lions , I agree that Brad Holmes might believe in GOFF , at least , to some extent . That doesn't mean he is right . If I had to BET , he is about the regret that decision soon enough.

I guess we'll leave this one at that bro... and see how it all plays out after the coming season. Good sparring with you...

Go Rams!.

[brasilrams]

All good . Just different opinions .I do think wolford had something to do with it . Maybe mcvay had already decided to ship goff even before wolford played - yes , maybe - but watching everything that wolford bought to the team that IMO , goff was lacking ( intensity ,leadership , agressivness , mobility , passion etc ) may have reinforced the desire to move him . We can't know for sure . And yup , we will see how it pans out for the lions , I agree that Brad Holmes might believe in GOFF , at least , to some extent . That doesn't mean he is right . If I had to BET , he is about the regret that decision soon enough.

I guess we'll leave this one at that bro... and see how it all plays out after the coming season. Good sparring with you...

Go Rams!.

Yup , exactly . Always good back and forth with you bro . go rams !

[Hangtime]

Wolfie has mobility and smarts. Unlike Austin Davis he actually thinks before he throws a pass. Staffie isn't mobile and I wouldn't be surprised to see Wolfie succeed and become a starter some day--- nice place to end the thread.

[RamPower]

Who's mad?

Speaking of wrong as usual, you won't ever give up regardless how little knowledge you provide - that's a long-time given. You have NEVER been the first to end a thread obviously…just attack with your eventual straw man stabs and distraction technique, while ever claims of "facts".

There are lots of respected sources (along with fans here of course) indicating that Wolford played well vs. AZ (yes, clearly offensive MVP). Then there's you and a handful of differing opinions from this forum. That's fine, but again nothing provided by you from anybody remotely credible from an outside source to assist your view (gosh I wonder why?) …like a head coach for instance. You are weak in this thread is the plain truth. So yeah, just gaslight away like usual

Bro...you're mad just read your post because someone wont worship Wolford.

There are also metrics that rank him as the 20 something best back up! Let me guess those don't count because they don't fit your narrative Wolford is all pro. I forget only sources that validate RamPower are allowed. You're a joke dude, always have been when someome disgrees with you.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/rank ... -five/amp/

Nice try bud. Better luck next time...checkmate ;)

Checkmate Delusion much?

You simply revert to your classic straw man tactics with nothing else to offer. For instance, where did I indicate I worshiped Wolford? Or say he was more than an average back-up? I'll wait…

That's obviously a fail by you and your typical delusions of grandeur checkmating You merely keep shifting the discussion away from any actual examples provided.

We (this thread) already discussed the ranked 20 something - try to keep up. It's actually impressive IMO in that his sample size is one game. But (many) people liked what they saw in that AZ game. No, he's not a top draft choice destined to be a starter soon (i.e. top of the list). Or again, a player with much NFL play in which to evaluate. So? This topic is simply the AZ game, try as you might to spin things in your usual ineffective way.

How does anything you've said help you prove Wolford via the "9 point game" was thus unimpressive beyond your own opinion? You're just fluff as you say, with zero back-up from outside this forum.

PFF gave the kid a 70.8. Really not too bad for somebody that got virtually zero help in a play-in game. He was the offensive MVP - something you run from like a cockroach from light (I'm used to it from you of course).

Seriously - that's all you have? Checkmate he says. From our coach's mouth:

McVay couldn’t help but rave about the young quarterback after the Rams’ 18-7 win, saying “John Wolford was the star offensively.”

“He made plays. We have to continue to make plays around him,” McVay told reporters after the game. “I just thought his movement, his athleticism, some of the things where he recognized coverage, he’s hitting Cam Akers, he’s hitting Tyler Higbee down the sidelines when corners are kind of coming off and not honoring the deep part of the field. This guy’s resilience showed up in a big way. I was really impressed with him.”

I think his ability to see the field and extend plays,” McVay said. “The one that stands out to me is the first third-down-and-10 conversion, where he dropped back, he kind of gets flushed, they play a split-safety zone, gets flushed to his left and then ends up being able to put his foot in the ground and convert. Some of those things are big-time deals. Even just being able to extend some of the bootlegs where he finds Van Jefferson on the cross, or where typically those things, the ball kind of has to come out. So, I thought it showed up in a big way really on all three downs. He gave us a chance in a big way today.”

McVay said repeated that he was “really pleased” with the way Wolford played and came away impressed on Sunday, both in evaluating how he performed as a runner and passer. But what also stood out was Wolford’s resilience and mindset after throwing a bad interception on his first pass.
It was meant to be a simple read for the quarterback to get him comfortable, but he missed the linebacker underneath and threw it directly to him. Wolford took a little while to get settled in, but McVay didn’t condense the playbook or lose confidence in the quarterback after that initial misread.

“It really didn’t. He has a nice way about himself. He thought he saw something, it was just a little mistake,” McVay said. “And then we came back to a very similar play and he got the look that we wanted and ripped it to Josh Reynolds on a big-time slant from the two-spot in an empty. So, I think it didn’t change much other than putting our defense in a tough spot to start the game after they end up getting the first stop of the game. He learned from it, but it didn’t change my confidence in him, and I think you could see that with the way that we called the game.”

McVay didn’t commit to a quarterback for the first round of the playoffs, saying he’s “not sure” if Jared Goff will be available. The Rams will give some thought to starting Wolford again, especially considering the way he played against Arizona.


This is where I would call you a Goff Mom btw if I was a weak on forums such as you…

[Yorkshire Ram]

Is Wolfie good or the second coming of Ryan Fitzpatrick? I think the sample size is way too small to decide one way or the other. We’ll know a lot more who the backup is when we see who is taking most of the snaps during preseason.

Despite all the flack I get for not bowing at the alter of Wolford. I actually like him as our back-up.

I just agree with the premise the sample size is too small to have a good feel for what he really is.

I agree, I like him as our back up too from what I've seen. As I said pages and pages ago, I think he's a serviceable spot starter.

I think most others hold that view too and that is what they've been saying?

[Yorkshire Ram]

I agree, I like him as our back up too from what I've seen. As I said pages and pages ago, I think he's a serviceable spot starter.

I think most others hold that view too and that is what they've been saying?

Well, considering you can't be critical of Wolford at all here. I would argue your 2nd paragraph.

I think it was the call to cut him early on that fired things up and suggested a different agenda? As you say, he's shown the capability of being a reasonable back up so the call to cut him was a bit unfair.

[brasilrams]

Agreed Ram Power. Wolford was great that day. Only Goff moms think otherwise

And only Wolford moms think a QB rating of 60 and harldy no points scored is something great.

Which isn't a opinion, it's a fact that actually occurred unlike your and Ram Powers version of things.

Have you got treatment for your Goff obession yet Mike? I got you bro...

https://iocdf.org/clinics/

You're welcome ;)

He had a 74 rating by ESPN . Goff had a 58 rating for the 2020 season by the same ESPN. Go figure.

[brasilrams]

I agree, I like him as our back up too from what I've seen. As I said pages and pages ago, I think he's a serviceable spot starter.

I think most others hold that view too and that is what they've been saying?

Exactly. I keep trying to get same point across to him but it doesn't register. Whatevs....

He just can't stand the fact that we would rather have Wolford then Goff as our back up. It literally kills him. Lol

[brasilrams]

He had a 74 rating by ESPN . Goff had a 58 rating for the 2020 season by the same ESPN. Go figure.

Nope, I'm talking passer rating.

How many times do I gotta say this brasil. Jes Christ lol. QBR is a trash metric

Qbr is a trash metric why? because you say so? Right. Lol.

[brasilrams]

He just can't stand the fact that we would rather have Wolford then Goff as our back up. It literally kills him. Lol

Quit speaking for me dude. You have a bad habit of doing this as does Mike.

Well, that is what it seems like. This whole Wolford x Goff thing started because some of us said that we would rather have Wolford then Goff as our back up. That Is how it started.

[brasilrams]

Qbr is a trash metric why? because you say so? Right. Lol.

Umm lots of people do. Pay attention lol.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/11/espn-q ... hat-is-qbr

Qbr is still the most used metric out there. Maybe not espns rating but every major sports company has their own qbr metric. Way more used than passer rating.

[brasilrams]

Qbr is still the most used metric out there. Maybe not espns rating but every major sports company has their own qbr metric. Way more used than passer rating.

No, it's not hahaha

It's a ESPN exclusive. Sorry dude, but you are not accurate here.

Every company has their own way of rating, it doesn't matter how they call it. Qbr, passer rating, etc. That is what I meant. Anyway, I don't need the media to tell me that Wolford played extremely well in the short time that he was our starter. I was more impressed with him in 5 quarters then I was with Goff during the entire f*ing season.

[brasilrams]

Well, that is what it seems like. This whole Wolford x Goff thing started because some of us said that we would rather have Wolford then Goff as our back up. That Is how it started.

Who cares???

People can discuss what they want without your and Mikes approval. Get over yourselfs already.

Sure they can. But this is a public space and I will voice my opinion whenever I feel like.

[brasilrams]

Every company has their own way of rating, it doesn't matter how they call it. Qbr, passer rating, etc. That is what I meant. Anyway, I don't need the media to tell me that Wolford played extremely well in the short time that he was our starter. I was more impressed with him in 5 quarters then I was with Goff during the entire *** season.

Thats fine. I disgree but lets leave it that. Everyone can have their own opinions.

For sure . All good .

[brasilrams]

Sure they can. But this is a public space and I will voice my opinion whenever I feel like.

Umm who said you can't? Considering you and Mike are the ones who take issue with other people's opinions. For some odd reason.

I don't take issue with others opinions . Not at all . Anybody can quote me , anytime they want , showing me a different opinion and I will gladly debate , as long as it is respectful . that is what we are here for , respectful debates .

[Hangtime]

Wolfie might be better than the guy who pilfered his 9.

[toast49]

Wolfie might be better than the guy who pilfered his 9.

+1

Wolford had a higher QBR then Stafford last year too!

Wolford blows

[toast49]

Wolford blows

MIKE !!!!!

BRASIL !!!!!

RAMPOWER !!!!!

Someone's talking bad about Wolford again.....

Let's hope Perkins beats him out. @ hastag #cutWolford

[RamPower]

Wolford blows

MIKE !!!!!

BRASIL !!!!!

RAMPOWER !!!!!

Someone's talking bad about Wolford again.....

Who cares? Nothing thought provoking to attend to there BUT thanks, that's a good list of Rams fans you put me on there

[RamPower]

Wolfie might be better than the guy who pilfered his 9.

+1

Wolford had a higher QBR then Stafford last year too!

He's undefeated as an NFL starter as well. In fact he's never stepped onto a regular season or playoff game he didn't win ;) so yes, context/sample sizes do play into the evaluation process as always...

[brasilrams]

+1

Wolford had a higher QBR then Stafford last year too!

Wolford blows

Lol damn troll.

[brasilrams]

If Sean McVay, the Offensive Savant, assesses Perkins beats out Wolford, that's perfectly fine with me. Just like it was fine with me when that same Sean McVay, Offensive Savant, assessed that Wolford beat out Goff.

Nope.

Yup. ( Couldn't resist)

[Rams since '66]

Stats schmats. Wolfie has intangibles.

[Rampager66]

Wonder If Wolford will be a little more gun shy about taking off after the neck injury?
If so it sure would hinder his effectiveness. Maybe Perkins will beat him out after all...
Whoever it is, and I don't really have a preference or dislike either one, I'm sure we'll be fine at the position.

[sanbagger]

Stats schmats. Wolfie has intangibles.

No....he has Moxie....