Wolfie in trouble?

[Raminec]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Yup. WOLFORD got Goff shipped out of town. That's why we love him, and always will, even if he never takes another snap for us. Good job Wolfie! Conversely, that why "they" hate him LMAO

Oh boy lots of nonsense from you today Mike....

1. Nobody hates Wolford, really silly for you suggests such.

2. Wolford is not the reason Goff got traded, this makes no sense at all. Like really none.

3. Sorry about your GDS bro, the rest of us have moved on. Well except brasil lol. You should consider joining us Rama fans. But I doubt you will, unfortunately.

+1000
The GDS crew need to definitely needs to move on.

[brasilrams]

Yup. WOLFORD got Goff shipped out of town. That's why we love him, and always will, even if he never takes another snap for us. Good job Wolfie! Conversely, that why "they" hate him LMAO

Oh boy lots of nonsense from you today Mike....

1. Nobody hates Wolford, really silly for you suggests such.

2. Wolford is not the reason Goff got traded, this makes no sense at all. Like really none.

3. Sorry about your GDS bro, the rest of us have moved on. Well except brasil lol. You should consider joining us Rama fans. But I doubt you will, unfortunately.

Oh I moved on , I am not the one creating threads trying to tell the world how bad wolfie is . If he was the reason to why goff was shipped out of town , or not , it doesn't matter and nobody can know for sure . I do THINK he had something to do with it . Real rams Fans wants the TEAM to succeed , not a specific player . Quite the contrary , if a specific player is costing the team wins , real rams fans want him gone . If stafford comes in and play mediocre qb for 2 FULL seasons leading the league in Tos , you can bet your ass I will want him gone too .

[Yorkshire Ram]

Yeah, I've long moved on from Goff as well. Love Staffy, and if people didnt come on here trashing our backup QB there would be no Goff talk.

Umm no lol. The reason there is so much Goff talk is because you are obsessed with him.

Let's call a spade,a spade

The 'cut Wolford' stuff early on was possibly a little unfair and inflammatory though? It was always likely to cause a debate that included Goff because it seemed to have an agenda? Just my opinion.

[RamPower]

To keep blaming the lack of point against AZ - like a broken record - , on wolf just shows how dishonest and biased you are . You want to blame lack of points in that game you point your finger to akers and highbee , those are FACTS , you like it or not . The QB either gives the ball to the RB or throw to Tes and REcs . When the RB fumbles at the 1 yard line and the TE drops a perfect pass , the QB did his job but the teammates didn't .

Wolf played extremely well for a first start in the NFL in a do or die game , and still WON ( got a crucial 3rd down conversion with his LEGS to ice the game BTW ) despite his offense playing like crap ( except the kicker ) . But being a goff's mom you will never see that , you actually hate wolf because he was the one that showed mcvay he needed to get RID of goff . He was basically the one responsible to ship goff outta town .

If the O line had played better Wolford would have hung 40 or 50 on the Cards. He was carving those Cards up

Every national summary I saw after that game had Wolford as the only offensive game "winner", the O-line as the game "loser". Factor in many of the others on offense that were awarded the dubious distinction of game "loser" and you have to say that Wolford overcame a ton in his first ever NFL action (an NFL play-in game no less). That has a lot more to do with evaluating the young QB vs. trying to decipher stats around all the other elements from an offense that decided to be outplayed by an AZ defense that day...

Wolford is a back-up. I pull for every Ram on the roster to be as good as possible. If they get beat out, fine. But regarding Wolford "Moms", I see the agenda actually the other way around (i.e. "Wolford sucks")....

[Yorkshire Ram]

Umm who said that?

Also, what does the Rams back up QB have to do with Goff?

Sorry York but your post is irrelevant to what is actually occurring.

Its totally RELEVANT. Toast said it early in the thread.

Exactly, it's not reasonable to suggest that Wolford should be cut at the moment. Just seemed an unfair thing to say based on performance, which suggested another agenda? I think it's relevant.

[Rampager66]

Fact is the Rams had 10 total Drives the Arizona game that Wolford was the QB for the whole game... 10 drives.... 5 punts... 3 FG's... 1 INT and 1 drive where the half ended...
They had 70 total Offensive plays and got 9 points from them... to the Cards 7 points from 49 plays... Red Zone Rams 0-4... Cards 1-2

The Cards QB's were the ones under siege all game, they were pressured, sacked, hit and defended more then Wolford was.
The Cards back up QB, a CFL back up 2 years ago, managed to get his team into the end zone the 1 time he was given the opportunity to, after the Wolford Pick, vs the leagues No.1 Defense.

And no any adolescent can't see it, they usually make up what they want to see instead and then claim they have better things to do then research their BS.

To keep blaming the lack of point against AZ - like a broken record - , on wolf just shows how dishonest and biased you are . You want to blame lack of points in that game you point your finger to akers and highbee , those are FACTS , you like it or not . The QB either gives the ball to the RB or throw to Tes and REcs . When the RB fumbles at the 1 yard line and the TE drops a perfect pass , the QB did his job but the teammates didn't .

Wolf played extremely well for a first start in the NFL in a do or die game , and still WON ( got a crucial 3rd down conversion with his LEGS to ice the game BTW ) despite his offense playing like crap ( except the kicker ) . But being a goff's mom you will never see that , you actually hate wolf because he was the one that showed mcvay he needed to get RID of goff . He was basically the one responsible to ship goff outta town .

The only broken record around here is the one that keeps making excuses for one that don't apply for the other.and then projecting his dishonesty and biased on others...
And NO... they are not facts whether YOU like it or not.
But Being a Wolford Karen will keep you making up BS that you think you saw because you want to have your own way... Not going to happen with me... BS proves nothing except your full of it...

And now you claim that they shipped out Goff because of Wolford and you know this because you said so and thats all you got... Funny how no one else in the league wants Wolford at league minimum but someone did want Goff and his hefty price tag... is that biased in your world as well...

I suggested to you a few posts ago that we won't agree on this.....

[RamPower]

Every national summary I saw after that game had Wolford as the only offensive game "winner", the O-line as the game "loser". Factor in many of the others on offense that were awarded the dubious distinction of game "loser" and you have to say that Wolford overcame a ton in his first ever NFL action (an NFL play-in game no less). That has a lot more to do with evaluating the young QB vs. trying to decipher stats around all the other elements from an offense that decided to be outplayed by an AZ defense that day...

Wolford is a back-up. I pull for every Ram on the roster to be as good as possible. If they get beat out, fine. But regarding Wolford "Moms", I see the agenda actually the other way around (i.e. "Wolford sucks")....

Exactly how I see it Power.

Sure we all know that coaches lie for a living (ok, coachspeak), but I honestly thought this was a sincere evaluation:

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... n-week-17/

You are just seeing things as a coach would BRam ;) You're hired...

[brasilrams]

To keep blaming the lack of point against AZ - like a broken record - , on wolf just shows how dishonest and biased you are . You want to blame lack of points in that game you point your finger to akers and highbee , those are FACTS , you like it or not . The QB either gives the ball to the RB or throw to Tes and REcs . When the RB fumbles at the 1 yard line and the TE drops a perfect pass , the QB did his job but the teammates didn't .

Wolf played extremely well for a first start in the NFL in a do or die game , and still WON ( got a crucial 3rd down conversion with his LEGS to ice the game BTW ) despite his offense playing like crap ( except the kicker ) . But being a goff's mom you will never see that , you actually hate wolf because he was the one that showed mcvay he needed to get RID of goff . He was basically the one responsible to ship goff outta town .

The only broken record around here is the one that keeps making excuses for one that don't apply for the other.and then projecting his dishonesty and biased on others...
And NO... they are not facts whether YOU like it or not.
But Being a Wolford Karen will keep you making up BS that you think you saw because you want to have your own way... Not going to happen with me... BS proves nothing except your full of it...

And now you claim that they shipped out Goff because of Wolford and you know this because you said so and thats all you got... Funny how no one else in the league wants Wolford at league minimum but someone did want Goff and his hefty price tag... is that biased in your world as well...

I suggested to you a few posts ago that we won't agree on this.....

Yes they are facts whether YOU like it or not , the sooner you realize this , the better . Akers fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line and highbee dropped a perfect dime for 6 . Those are FACTS . Anyone with half a brain would be blaming those players for the lack of points produced by the offense in that game but you blame the qb . Like I said before , really coherent . The whole " 9 points " against AZ just proves your bullshit , not mine .

Oh and hefty price for goff ??? You mean the hefty price the RAMS had to pay to get rid of him, right ?

[Rampager66]

If the O line had played better Wolford would have hung 40 or 50 on the Cards. He was carving those Cards up

Every national summary I saw after that game had Wolford as the only offensive game "winner", the O-line as the game "loser". Factor in many of the others on offense that were awarded the dubious distinction of game "loser" and you have to say that Wolford overcame a ton in his first ever NFL action (an NFL play-in game no less). That has a lot more to do with evaluating the young QB vs. trying to decipher stats around all the other elements from an offense that decided to be outplayed by an AZ defense that day...

Wolford is a back-up. I pull for every Ram on the roster to be as good as possible. If they get beat out, fine. But regarding Wolford "Moms", I see the agenda actually the other way around (i.e. "Wolford sucks")....

Really... You depend on the media to make up your mind for you on what you supposedly just watched on the field? Funny how you guys saw these articles but for some reason don't or won't post them. hmmmm

I find nothing you say here believable, but that's because I like to think for myself and not glom on to other opinions because it suits a narrative., but that's just me..

[brasilrams]

If the O line had played better Wolford would have hung 40 or 50 on the Cards. He was carving those Cards up

Every national summary I saw after that game had Wolford as the only offensive game "winner", the O-line as the game "loser". Factor in many of the others on offense that were awarded the dubious distinction of game "loser" and you have to say that Wolford overcame a ton in his first ever NFL action (an NFL play-in game no less). That has a lot more to do with evaluating the young QB vs. trying to decipher stats around all the other elements from an offense that decided to be outplayed by an AZ defense that day...

Wolford is a back-up. I pull for every Ram on the roster to be as good as possible. If they get beat out, fine. But regarding Wolford "Moms", I see the agenda actually the other way around (i.e. "Wolford sucks")....

Perfectly said , as always

[brasilrams]

Yes they are facts whether YOU like it or not , the sooner you realize this , the better . Akers fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line and highbee dropped a perfect dime for 6 . Those are FACTS . Anyone with half a brain would be blaming those players for the lack of points produced by the offense in that game but you blame the qb . Like I said before , really coherent . The whole " 9 points " against AZ just proves your bullshit , not mine .

Oh and hefty price for goff ??? You mean the hefty price the RAMS had to pay to get rid of him, right ?

Yeah, and thank God there was a sucker like Brad Holmes to take him from us....just a joke folks, he's a FINE Quarterback.

And oh yeah, of course Wolford's performance got Goff traded. But then again, even if Wolfie would have failed, Mac might have traded him anyway.

He would , wolford just made him even more sure that he wanted this.

[RamPower]

Every national summary I saw after that game had Wolford as the only offensive game "winner", the O-line as the game "loser". Factor in many of the others on offense that were awarded the dubious distinction of game "loser" and you have to say that Wolford overcame a ton in his first ever NFL action (an NFL play-in game no less). That has a lot more to do with evaluating the young QB vs. trying to decipher stats around all the other elements from an offense that decided to be outplayed by an AZ defense that day...

Wolford is a back-up. I pull for every Ram on the roster to be as good as possible. If they get beat out, fine. But regarding Wolford "Moms", I see the agenda actually the other way around (i.e. "Wolford sucks")....

Really... You depend on the media to make up your mind for you on what you supposedly just watched on the field? Funny how you guys saw these articles but for some reason don't or won't post them. hmmmm

I find nothing you say here believable, but that's because I like to think for myself and not glom on to other opinions because it suits a narrative., but that's just me..

That's really weak from you. McVay is the media for starters?

Fans versus the national experts tho, sure I'll listen to both sides at the least, that is, if we're being non-biased. This lying media shit is such a convenient crutch obviously. Regardless, I think I've supported my view pretty well.

Nope, my opinion is mine. Been evaluating Wolford's play the exact same way from minute one. Seems obvious to me what really happened. And the "media" in this case versus a few on this forum that have (in my view) way less credibility regarding the evaluation of NFL players thru their history of posting here?…yeah I'm good thx…and this didn't post what articles now tho? WTF are you talking about there? I've posted every article out there regarding the AZ game = nobody out there comes close to agreeing with you

[Rampager66]

The only broken record around here is the one that keeps making excuses for one that don't apply for the other.and then projecting his dishonesty and biased on others...
And NO... they are not facts whether YOU like it or not.
But Being a Wolford Karen will keep you making up BS that you think you saw because you want to have your own way... Not going to happen with me... BS proves nothing except your full of it...

And now you claim that they shipped out Goff because of Wolford and you know this because you said so and thats all you got... Funny how no one else in the league wants Wolford at league minimum but someone did want Goff and his hefty price tag... is that biased in your world as well...

I suggested to you a few posts ago that we won't agree on this.....

Yes they are facts whether YOU like it or not , the sooner you realize this , the better . Akers fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line and highbee dropped a perfect dime for 6 . Those are FACTS . Anyone with half a brain would be blaming those players for the lack of points produced by the offense in that game but you blame the qb . Like I said before , really coherent . The whole " 9 points " against AZ just proves your bullshit , not mine .

Oh and hefty price for goff ??? You mean the hefty price the RAMS had to pay to get rid of him, right ?

They're facts to a Wolford Karen maybe... Stomp your feet all you want.... The sooner you realize THAT the better...

Who was and is responsible for that hefty price tag? The same guy who gave up a tons to move up and draft him 1st over all.... the same guy and HC who also gave him an exorbitant extension 1 year before they had to... But Goff.....

The 9 points, and you cherry picking a couple plays you think make a point proves the only bullshit I see... and btw Bullshit is never "really coherent". .

Wolford has yet to get us in the end zone in 4 + quarters no matter how many excuses you throw out there.. Kinda like Goff in the SB, that you bring up often. Only difference is you don't cherry pick miscues by his teammates because you hold him to a different standard...

[RamPower]

That's really weak from you. McVay is the media for starters?

Fans versus the national experts tho, sure I'll listen to both sides at the least, that is, if we're being non-biased. This lying media *** is such a convenient crutch obviously. Regardless, I think I've supported my view pretty well.

Nope, my opinion is mine. Been evaluating Wolford's play the exact same way from minute one. Seems obvious to me what really happened. And the "media" in this case versus a few on this forum that have (in my view) way less credibility regarding the evaluation of NFL players thru their history of posting here?…yeah I'm good thx…and this didn't post what articles now tho? WTF are you talking about there? I've posted every article out there regarding the AZ game = nobody out there comes close to agreeing with you

It would be nice if you would post these so-called articles explaining how bad the Rams oline was vs AZ.

Sure, hang on - it's slow here at work...are you actually going to click on the links this time?

[Rampager66]

They're facts to a Wolford Karen maybe... Stomp your feet all you want.... The sooner you realize THAT the better...

Who was and is responsible for that hefty price tag? The same guy who gave up a tons to move up and draft him 1st over all.... the same guy and HC who also gave him an exorbitant extension 1 year before they had to... But Goiff.....

The 9 points, and you cherry picking a couple plays you think make a point proves the only bullshit I see... and btw Bullshit is never "really coherent". .

Wolford has yet to get us in the end zone in 4 + quarters no matter how many excuses you throw out there.. Kinda like Goff in the SB, that you bring up often. Only difference is you don't cherry pick miscues by his teammates because you hold him to a different standard...

Yup...it's only a team game when Goff isn't playing. Hilarious.

Exactly... If you don't like someone that's fine, but bullshitting people to get them to feel the same way is as weak as it gets...

[Rampager66]

They're facts to a Wolford Karen maybe... Stomp your feet all you want.... The sooner you realize THAT the better...

Who was and is responsible for that hefty price tag? The same guy who gave up a tons to move up and draft him 1st over all.... the same guy and HC who also gave him an exorbitant extension 1 year before they had to... But Goff.....

The 9 points, and you cherry picking a couple plays you think make a point proves the only bullshit I see... and btw Bullshit is never "really coherent". .

Wolford has yet to get us in the end zone in 4 + quarters no matter how many excuses you throw out there.. Kinda like Goff in the SB, that you bring up often. Only difference is you don't cherry pick miscues by his teammates because you hold him to a different standard...

In MY Defense I ALWAYS point out Cooks drop in 4th Quarter. Couldn't ask for a better pass. Having said that Wolford was FAR better than 9 points.

Yes you have mentioned that before. But you flat out blamed only Goff for the loss and that's where we differ. Team game bro...

[RamPower]

Sure, hang on - it's slow here at work...are you actually going to click on the links this time?

As long as it's not media drivel and actual substance.

Anything can be challenged for the sake of argument, but here we go (again, this versus a handful of doubting fans here to keep some perspective):

Starting with some winners/losers - Studs & Duds

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lists/ ... t-week-17/

https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2021/1/4/ ... hn-wolford

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... cardinals/


Some other links giving Wolford his due:

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... n-week-17/

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... -decision/

https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/mcv ... on-on-goff

https://www.si.com/nfl/cardinals/news/c ... hn-wolford

https://www.espn.com/nfl/recap/_/gameId/401220344




Media opinion fluff for fun:

https://nypost.com/2021/03/24/a-taste-o ... ationship/

[RAMFAN71]

WOW. Mention Wolford and you get 10 pages of banter...and growing. This is our backup.

[Rampager66]

Yes you have mentioned that before. But you flat out blamed only Goff for the loss and that's where we differ. Team game bro...

Flat out is a little rough. I blamed him mostly for the bad pass to Cooks in the THIRD Quarter, but mainly I blame the ref who threw the Flag on the "Phantom Hold" on Sullivan. Refs were never letting us win that game after what went on in New Orleans.

I do however blame Goff for 2020 Super Bowl and I can understand where that's debatable.

Then we can agree to disagree finally?

[RamPower]

WOW. Mention Wolford and you get 10 pages of banter...and growing. This is our backup.

Yeah really. You'd think we'd be talking about something much more important like the uniforms...

[brasilrams]

Exactly... If you don't like someone that's fine, but bullshitting people to get them to feel the same way is as weak as it gets...

It's nonsensical as well.

I just think it's odd and peculiar. The same posters complaining about the oline and drops in the AZ game are the same posters who refuse to acknowledge Goff played behind that same oline and was throwing to same recievers. So the oline was only a issue when Wolford was in? I just don't get it but to each their own.

Tell me one time our RB fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line AND one of our receivers / TE , dropped a perfect pass for 6 with no coverage , BOTH in the same game . I dare you . That is 14 points combined right there .

[RamPower]

Anything can be challenged for the sake of argument, but here we go (again, this versus a handful of doubting fans here to keep some perspective):

Starting with some winners/losers - Studs & Duds

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lists/ ... t-week-17/

https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2021/1/4/ ... hn-wolford

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... cardinals/


Some other links giving Wolford his due:

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... n-week-17/

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... -decision/

https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/mcv ... on-on-goff


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/rank ... andy-reid/

https://www.si.com/nfl/cardinals/news/c ... hn-wolford

https://www.espn.com/nfl/recap/_/gameId/401220344




Media opinion fluff for fun:

https://nypost.com/2021/03/24/a-taste-o ... ationship/

I said substance. Not fluff peices from Rams sites and other media outlets. Of course they want to sale story lines. And yes I've read most of these before.

You were supposed to post evidence of how bad the oline was in AZ which is the point you keep trying to hammer home.

Lol, not fluff pieces such as your opinion for instance

Show me something from any source to the contrary...your response was so predicable obviously. Again just more "fluff" opinion.

[brasilrams]

Yes they are facts whether YOU like it or not , the sooner you realize this , the better . Akers fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line and highbee dropped a perfect dime for 6 . Those are FACTS . Anyone with half a brain would be blaming those players for the lack of points produced by the offense in that game but you blame the qb . Like I said before , really coherent . The whole " 9 points " against AZ just proves your bullshit , not mine .

Oh and hefty price for goff ??? You mean the hefty price the RAMS had to pay to get rid of him, right ?

They're facts to a Wolford Karen maybe... Stomp your feet all you want.... The sooner you realize THAT the better...

Who was and is responsible for that hefty price tag? The same guy who gave up a tons to move up and draft him 1st over all.... the same guy and HC who also gave him an exorbitant extension 1 year before they had to... But Goff.....

The 9 points, and you cherry picking a couple plays you think make a point proves the only bullshit I see... and btw Bullshit is never "really coherent". .

Wolford has yet to get us in the end zone in 4 + quarters no matter how many excuses you throw out there.. Kinda like Goff in the SB, that you bring up often. Only difference is you don't cherry pick miscues by his teammates because you hold him to a different standard...

Cmon Goff karen , just realize that it is incredible dishonest to blame wolford for 9 points . akers and highbee should be blamed for 9 points . Again : any child with a half a brain can understand this . Scream nine points all you want , no one is listening . Everybody that understands a lil bit of football can see the wolf played a very good game considering all circumstances . Context matters as much as you and your bullshit try to say that it doesn't .

They did give goff that extension and that was a mistake of course . Then they had to give up MUCH more to get rid of him . If he was any good , the rams wouldn't have to send him PLUS 2 1st picks .

Oh and I don't hold goff to a different standard ( although maybe I should , after all , we are supposed to expect a higher STANDARD from a 1st overall pick that makes 120 m , when compared to a nobody backup that was a wall street guy ) , but still , I don't . You can bet that if in his FIRST NFL game goff was running for his life in every snap , and he still drove the ball downfield tons of times just so his teammates ( akers and highbee ) would crap the bed in clutch time , I wouldn't be bashing him for 9 points scored only , I would take all that into consideration. Looking at stats alone is the most stupid thing ever . Stats don't tell the whole story and AGAIN , even a 6 year old kid knows that . So , I call it as I see it , doesn't matter the player, unlike you .

The fact that mcvay said that there would be QB competition( if goff stayed there) for the 21 season is enough for you to understand that goff sucks . The so called franchise qb , 120 m qb , 1st overall pick qb , would have to fight for his starting job against a wall street guy with 2 NFL starts under his belt that makes 1/100 of his money . How pathetic .

[Rampager66]

They're facts to a Wolford Karen maybe... Stomp your feet all you want.... The sooner you realize THAT the better...

Who was and is responsible for that hefty price tag? The same guy who gave up a tons to move up and draft him 1st over all.... the same guy and HC who also gave him an exorbitant extension 1 year before they had to... But Goff.....

The 9 points, and you cherry picking a couple plays you think make a point proves the only bullshit I see... and btw Bullshit is never "really coherent". .

Wolford has yet to get us in the end zone in 4 + quarters no matter how many excuses you throw out there.. Kinda like Goff in the SB, that you bring up often. Only difference is you don't cherry pick miscues by his teammates because you hold him to a different standard...

Cmon Goff karen , just realize that it is incredible dishonest to blame wolford for 9 points . akers and highbee should be blamed for 9 points . Again : any child with a half a brain can understand this . Scream nine points all you want , no one is listening . Everybody that understands a lil bit of football can see the wolf played a very good game considering all circumstances . Context matters as much as you and your bullshit try to say that it doesn't .

They did give goff that extension and that was a mistake of course . Then they had to give up MUCH more to get rid of him . If he was any good , the rams wouldn't have to send him PLUS 2 1st picks .

Oh and I don't hold goff to a different standard ( although maybe I should , after all , we are supposed to expect a higher STANDARD from a 1st overall pick that makes 120 m , when compared to a nobody backup that was a wall street guy ) , but still , I don't . You can bet that if in his FIRST NFL game goff was running for his life in every snap , and he still drove the ball downfield tons of times just so his teammates ( akers and highbee ) would crap the bed in clutch time , I wouldn't be bashing him for 9 points scored only , I would take all that into consideration. Looking at stats alone is the most stupid thing ever . Stats don't tell the whole story and AGAIN , even a 6 year old kid knows that . So , I call it as I see it , doesn't matter the player, unlike you .

The fact that mcvay said that there would be QB competition( if goff stayed there) for the 21 season is enough for you to understand that goff sucks . The so called franchise qb , 120 m qb , 1st overall pick qb , would have to fight for his starting job against a wall street guy with 2 NFL starts under his belt that makes 1/100 of his money . How pathetic .

They had to send the picks to make the Lions take his contract... it had nothing to do with whether he was any good. That was determined when the Lions decided he was worth it and made the deal. And You have no idea how that will turn out til it plays out... Ditto for Stafford.
I'll reserve my opinion on that after the season...

As for the rest of your nonsense, the fact that you need to resort constantly to the childish name calling doesn't sound like you even believe your own bullshit.
Try again without the adolescent garbage you project on others..

[Rampager66]

Then we can agree to disagree finally?

Of course! Always Buddy.Youre an excellent poster and one of my favorites, even in disagreement.

Right back at ya bro! 8-)

Go Rams!

[brasilrams]

Cmon Goff karen , just realize that it is incredible dishonest to blame wolford for 9 points . akers and highbee should be blamed for 9 points . Again : any child with a half a brain can understand this . Scream nine points all you want , no one is listening . Everybody that understands a lil bit of football can see the wolf played a very good game considering all circumstances . Context matters as much as you and your bullshit try to say that it doesn't .

They did give goff that extension and that was a mistake of course . Then they had to give up MUCH more to get rid of him . If he was any good , the rams wouldn't have to send him PLUS 2 1st picks .

Oh and I don't hold goff to a different standard ( although maybe I should , after all , we are supposed to expect a higher STANDARD from a 1st overall pick that makes 120 m , when compared to a nobody backup that was a wall street guy ) , but still , I don't . You can bet that if in his FIRST NFL game goff was running for his life in every snap , and he still drove the ball downfield tons of times just so his teammates ( akers and highbee ) would crap the bed in clutch time , I wouldn't be bashing him for 9 points scored only , I would take all that into consideration. Looking at stats alone is the most stupid thing ever . Stats don't tell the whole story and AGAIN , even a 6 year old kid knows that . So , I call it as I see it , doesn't matter the player, unlike you .

The fact that mcvay said that there would be QB competition( if goff stayed there) for the 21 season is enough for you to understand that goff sucks . The so called franchise qb , 120 m qb , 1st overall pick qb , would have to fight for his starting job against a wall street guy with 2 NFL starts under his belt that makes 1/100 of his money . How pathetic .

They had to send the picks to make the Lions take his contract... it had nothing to do with whether he was any good. That was determined when the Lions decided he was worth it and made the deal. And You have no idea how that will turn out til it plays out... Ditto for Stafford.
I'll reserve my opinion on that after the season...

As for the rest of your nonsense, the fact that you need to resort constantly to the childish name calling doesn't sound like you even believe your own bullshit.
Try again without the adolescent garbage you project on others..

Childish name calling? I didn't call you anything. About the picks, if he was any good lions would just absorb his contract. They had the cap space from what I remember. Rams had to send 2 first picks because they were clearly trading a better qb for a worse qb. Stafford is top 10 in basically every ranking ( playing for the crappy lions) and Goff was bottom 10 ( for 19 and 20) in every ranking playing for mcvay and last year with a number 1 defense.

[Rampager66]

They had to send the picks to make the Lions take his contract... it had nothing to do with whether he was any good. That was determined when the Lions decided he was worth it and made the deal. And You have no idea how that will turn out til it plays out... Ditto for Stafford.
I'll reserve my opinion on that after the season...

As for the rest of your nonsense, the fact that you need to resort constantly to the childish name calling doesn't sound like you even believe your own bullshit.
Try again without the adolescent garbage you project on others..

Childish name calling? I didn't call you anything. About the picks, if he was any good lions would just absorb his contract. They had the cap space from what I remember. Rams had to send 2 first picks because they were clearly trading a better qb for a worse qb. Stafford is top 10 in basically every ranking ( playing for the crappy lions) and Goff was bottom 10 ( for 19 and 20) in every ranking playing for mcvay and last year with a number 1 defense.

Would they now. They would absorb all that guaranteed money? The draft picks give them 2 team friendly rookie contracts so they can absorb it. And the Lions wanted Goff whether you can handle that or not. Their new HC is very familiar with him from being in the Rams organization these past few years.
He's a bona fide NFL coach so excuse me if I'd rather trust him then an internet poster who only thinks he knows.

[brasilrams]

Childish name calling? I didn't call you anything. About the picks, if he was any good lions would just absorb his contract. They had the cap space from what I remember. Rams had to send 2 first picks because they were clearly trading a better qb for a worse qb. Stafford is top 10 in basically every ranking ( playing for the crappy lions) and Goff was bottom 10 ( for 19 and 20) in every ranking playing for mcvay and last year with a number 1 defense.

Would they now. They would absorb all that guaranteed money? The draft picks give them 2 team friendly rookie contracts so they can absorb it. And the Lions wanted Goff whether you can handle that or not. Their new HC is very familiar with him from being in the Rams organization these past few years.
He's a bona fide NFL coach so excuse me if I'd rather trust him then an internet poster who only thinks he knows.

All good , I can say the same thing , excuse me from trusting mcvay that goff is no good . He wouldn't have moved mountains and traded him if he thought he could get the job done right ? so yeah , I am guessing I am sticking with mcvay's opinion over an internet poster that loves goff or even Dan Campbell .

[Rampager66]

Would they now. They would absorb all that guaranteed money? The draft picks give them 2 team friendly rookie contracts so they can absorb it. And the Lions wanted Goff whether you can handle that or not. Their new HC is very familiar with him from being in the Rams organization these past few years.
He's a bona fide NFL coach so excuse me if I'd rather trust him then an internet poster who only thinks he knows.

All good , I can say the same thing , excuse me from trusting mcvay that goff is no good . He wouldn't have moved mountains and traded him if he thought he could get the job done right ? so yeah , I am guessing I am sticking with mcvay's opinion over an internet poster that loves goff or even Dan Campbell .

I'm not arguing for Goff , just the silly notion that Wolford took his job because of how both played. And I've never denied that McVay has lost his confidence in him. I hope it doesn't come back to bite us with all we gave up to acquire Goff and then move him. Thats been my thing thru all of this. Who is or isn't on the roster is out of my hands so I don't get too worked up about it like others seem to.
And sorry. I should have said the Lions new GM and VP Brad Holmes. I thought they hired him as a coach. Shows how much I don't care about the Lions.. He as the former head of our scouting department is a solid judge on that and he's pretty high on Goff. For the Lions sake, he better be right...

[toast49]

What's the over under on the length of this thread?

[Raminec]

Amazingly long thread for a backup QB that hopefully will never see the field after preseason games if all goes well with the Rams season. Have no problem with Wolford as a backup but really hope Rams don’t need him to actually win a meaningful game. Stafford is the man now. May he stay healthy all season and lead the Rams to the playoffs and beyond the second round at minimum.