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Posted: **January 10th, 2022, 6:02 pm**

I'm hoping for the best moving forward in the playoffs but I'm 100% sure Jalen Ramsey does NOT like the defensive scheme that Raheem Morris runs at ALL!! With that said I feel McVay must make a change with Raheem Morris. That defensive scheme is not the correct scheme for the players we have. I feel Brian Flores would be perfect for the Rams because he employes an attack style defense and will place the players in the format towards there strengths. Jalen Ramsey would be lined up on whoever the number one WR for the opposing team hands down. I also feel Flores would have favor on the correct linebacker to come to LA that we need.

Bottom line, I hope we make it to the Superbowl and win it and even if we do, Morris must go!!

Posted: **January 10th, 2022, 6:04 pm**

unclesams wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 6:02 pm I'm hoping for the best moving forward in the playoffs but I'm 100% sure Jalen Ramsey does NOT like the defensive scheme that Raheem Morris runs at ALL!! With that said I feel McVay must make a change with Raheem Morris. That defensive scheme is not the correct scheme for the players we have. I feel Brian Flores would be perfect for the Rams because he employes an attack style defense and will place the players in the format towards there strengths. Jalen Ramsey would be lined up on whoever the number one WR for the opposing team hands down. I also feel Flores would have favor on the correct linebacker to come to LA that we need.

Bottom line, I hope we make it to the Superbowl and win it and even if we do, Morris must go!!

Yes, I would take Flores over Vic in a second

Posted: **January 10th, 2022, 6:08 pm**

Cornell29 wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 6:04 pm
unclesams wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 6:02 pm I'm hoping for the best moving forward in the playoffs but I'm 100% sure Jalen Ramsey does NOT like the defensive scheme that Raheem Morris runs at ALL!! With that said I feel McVay must make a change with Raheem Morris. That defensive scheme is not the correct scheme for the players we have. I feel Brian Flores would be perfect for the Rams because he employes an attack style defense and will place the players in the format towards there strengths. Jalen Ramsey would be lined up on whoever the number one WR for the opposing team hands down. I also feel Flores would have favor on the correct linebacker to come to LA that we need.

Bottom line, I hope we make it to the Superbowl and win it and even if we do, Morris must go!!
Yes, I would take Flores over Vic in a second

Hell yeah!! Me too!! He's a great schemer. Look at how he dismantled us in the Superbowl. I would definitely love Flores now that you bring up his style of defense. No more bend or break defense. We need a defense that can shut shit tf down.

Posted: **January 10th, 2022, 6:11 pm**

FelixTheStonerCat wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 6:08 pm
Cornell29 wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 6:04 pm Yes, I would take Flores over Vic in a second
Hell yeah!! Me too!! He's a great schemer. Look at how he dismantled us in the Superbowl. I would definitely love Flores now that you bring up his style of defense. No more bend or break defense. We need a defense that can shut *** tf down.

Dismantled Mcvay again last year with the dolphins. Flores defense just attacks and takes away what the opposing offense does best.

I've never been a fan of bend but don't break schemes.

Posted: **January 10th, 2022, 6:13 pm**

I think Flores is a damn good coach, he just naver had a QB in Miami....I'm assuming he was fired today

Posted: **January 10th, 2022, 6:33 pm**

He probably wants another HC position. Sounds intriguing for our Defense.

Need a ST coach too.

Posted: **January 10th, 2022, 6:50 pm**

Flores is another failure at head coach from the Belicheat system. The others who were defensive coordinators under Bill and got Head Coach gigs were all failures. Patricia, Crennel, Mangini and Flores never had success away from the Hoodie. They were not successful head coaches or defensive coordinators either. Mike Vrabel is the only former Patriots coach that has found success lately. I’d pass on Flores. He’s a big underachiever.

Posted: **January 10th, 2022, 6:54 pm**

Either one would suffice, anyone but Morris... but given the choice of the 2, I'd go with the OP and Flores... He's been the DC on a couple teams that shut our asses down and plays the style of D I'd want for the Rams. Make the opposition earn every inch of offense.
I'm teetering on not bothering with the playoffs because I fear as I have all season the D is going to underperform and cost us the season....
Those that want to blame Stafford for yesterday, I don't get it. The Offense did more than enough to win...
The D let them drive the length of the field 5 times for points, 3 TD's and 2 FG.s, and a 6th time when JR5 saved us with a pick on our 2.....
all 6 drives after the point when there was 41 seconds left in the 1st half.
included was the D let them drive for the GW chip shot FG in OT and use over 7 of the 10 OT minutes doing it, which came immediately after they let them drive 88 yards for the tying score, in 1:01, with no TO's.
Same deal in the 1st half, 61 yards and a FG in 38 seconds...
No matter what blunders we all think Sean made with the play calls at certain key points in the game, or choices with the ball Staff may have made, the D has got to pick us up in at least one of those 2 end of the half situations... Instead they faceplanted, broke and gave up 10 points, 149 yards and momentum twice.... in 1:39 worth of clock.
The game should never have gone into OT.

Posted: **January 10th, 2022, 6:57 pm**

I want Morris fired, but I want a DC that after one year isn't bailing. A team isn't going to be consistetly successful when every year we are replacing a Coordinator.

Posted: **January 10th, 2022, 8:01 pm**

Cornell29 wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 6:11 pm
FelixTheStonerCat wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 6:08 pm Hell yeah!! Me too!! He's a great schemer. Look at how he dismantled us in the Superbowl. I would definitely love Flores now that you bring up his style of defense. No more bend or break defense. We need a defense that can shut *** tf down.
Dismantled Mcvay again last year with the dolphins. Flores defense just attacks and takes away what goes opposing offense does best.

I've never been a fan of bend but don't break schemes.

Me either. Never been a fan. If we had Flores, chances are that Jalen Ramsey will weekly shadow the other teams number 1 pass catcher and neutralize the threat. Which he should be doing anyway instead of moving all over the goddamn field. Beef up our linebackers, add a few studs in the secondary and defensive line and we got ourselves a good defense. I was done with Morris after the damn titans game.

Posted: **January 11th, 2022, 12:51 am**

I'm all for a change, agree with Flores. I also agree with Malibu, we cant have a 1 one stopover, we must lock these assistant coaches in for 2-3 years. If they don't want to do that we don't need them. Bottom-line, we cannot continue to play musical assistants. This defense was unable to improve at ILB for which Morris is all to blame, he can live with Reeder and take him with him

Posted: **January 11th, 2022, 3:02 am**

It will be interesting to see this pan out, as I've seen no indication that McVay is unhappy with Morris, or that he's likely to get a HC job?

We are assuming that we're looking to replace the DC but that's far from certain.

On another point, I can see Ramsey being unhappy at going back to shadowing #1 WRs. I get the impression he likes to be around the ball in that Star role rather than neutralising that #1 threat? You wonder how much influence he has when these decisions are made?

Posted: **January 11th, 2022, 3:23 am**

I like Fangio, we already have his system principles, his teams are always always good, he’s unlikely to get another HC position soon. This is a good fit for him.

We need:
Linebackers
Safeties
just like last year

Posted: **January 11th, 2022, 3:55 am**

Flores will want; and will probably get another head coaching opportunity. I would be fine with Fangio.

Posted: **January 11th, 2022, 4:59 pm**

Rampager66 wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 6:54 pm Either one would suffice, anyone but Morris... but given the choice of the 2, I'd go with the OP and Flores... He's been the DC on a couple teams that shut our asses down and plays the style of D I'd want for the Rams. Make the opposition earn every inch of offense.
I'm teetering on not bothering with the playoffs because I fear as I have all season the D is going to underperform and cost us the season....
Those that want to blame Stafford for yesterday, I don't get it. The Offense did more than enough to win...
The D let them drive the length of the field 5 times for points, 3 TD's and 2 FG.s, and a 6th time when JR5 saved us with a pick on our 2.....
all 6 drives after the point when there was 41 seconds left in the 1st half.
included was the D let them drive for the GW chip shot FG in OT and use over 7 of the 10 OT minutes doing it, which came immediately after they let them drive 88 yards for the tying score, in 1:01, with no TO's.
Same deal in the 1st half, 61 yards and a FG in 38 seconds...
No matter what blunders we all think Sean made with the play calls at certain key points in the game, or choices with the ball Staff may have made, the D has got to pick us up in at least one of those 2 end of the half situations... Instead they faceplanted, broke and gave up 10 points, 149 yards and momentum twice.... in 1:39 worth of clock.
The game should never have gone into OT.

Fangio runs the same type of bend but don't break defense....we don't need that crap, we have that now

Posted: **January 11th, 2022, 9:05 pm**

therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑January 11th, 2022, 3:23 am I like Fangio, we already have his system principles, his teams are always always good, he’s unlikely to get another HC position soon. This is a good fit for him.

We need:
Linebackers
Safeties
just like last year

I agree 100 percent. And he brings some mature wisdom to our coaching staff.

Posted: **January 11th, 2022, 9:07 pm**

STL Woody wrote: ↑January 11th, 2022, 9:05 pm
therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑January 11th, 2022, 3:23 am I like Fangio, we already have his system principles, his teams are always always good, he’s unlikely to get another HC position soon. This is a good fit for him.

We need:
Linebackers
Safeties
just like last year
I agree 100 percent. And he brings some mature wisdom to our coaching staff.

I rather Flores than Fangio after doing research. Fangio uses that same stupid bend or break defense.

Posted: **January 12th, 2022, 10:31 am**

unclesams wrote: ↑January 11th, 2022, 4:59 pm
Rampager66 wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 6:54 pm Either one would suffice, anyone but Morris... but given the choice of the 2, I'd go with the OP and Flores... He's been the DC on a couple teams that shut our asses down and plays the style of D I'd want for the Rams. Make the opposition earn every inch of offense.
I'm teetering on not bothering with the playoffs because I fear as I have all season the D is going to underperform and cost us the season....
Those that want to blame Stafford for yesterday, I don't get it. The Offense did more than enough to win...
The D let them drive the length of the field 5 times for points, 3 TD's and 2 FG.s, and a 6th time when JR5 saved us with a pick on our 2.....
all 6 drives after the point when there was 41 seconds left in the 1st half.
included was the D let them drive for the GW chip shot FG in OT and use over 7 of the 10 OT minutes doing it, which came immediately after they let them drive 88 yards for the tying score, in 1:01, with no TO's.
Same deal in the 1st half, 61 yards and a FG in 38 seconds...
No matter what blunders we all think Sean made with the play calls at certain key points in the game, or choices with the ball Staff may have made, the D has got to pick us up in at least one of those 2 end of the half situations... Instead they faceplanted, broke and gave up 10 points, 149 yards and momentum twice.... in 1:39 worth of clock.
The game should never have gone into OT.
Fangio runs the same type of bend but don't break defense....we don't need that crap, we have that now

I'm with you bro. Flores it is then....
How about Jeff Fisher as the DC... he is pretty good at that... I see he just applied for a college gig too, so looks like he wants to coach again.. Wouldn't do HC with him again but DC... He plays aggressive D... doubt he'd do it here though...

Posted: **January 12th, 2022, 11:53 am**

Flores all the way! He may only be with us a year or two, but at least we would get a couple of third round comp picks if he left for a HC job. It seems it doesn't matter who coaches next to McVay (fingers crossed for Morris to leave). They could have known McVay in high school and be considered for a coordinator or head coaching job.

Posted: **January 12th, 2022, 11:05 pm**

FelixTheStonerCat wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 8:01 pm
Beef up our linebackers, add a few studs in the secondary and defensive line and we got ourselves a good defense.

Ummmm, so exactly how would the Rams do that, are you figuring...?? :?

ram pathos...

--The Commish

Posted: **January 13th, 2022, 9:43 am**

Dreaming. Flores is going to be a head coach.

Posted: **January 14th, 2022, 3:50 pm**

idahoramfan wrote: ↑January 13th, 2022, 9:43 am Dreaming. Flores is going to be a head coach.

You don't know that and neither do we.

Posted: **January 16th, 2022, 4:06 am**

From what I am hearing about the the real reasons Flores lost his job in Miami, I'd rather he didn't set foot in the facility if I'm honest.

I've changed my perspective on the guy.

and it's a 'No' from me.

Posted: **January 16th, 2022, 4:48 am**

UK Rams Fan wrote: ↑January 16th, 2022, 4:06 am From what I am hearing about the the real reasons Flores lost his job in Miami, I'd rather he didn't set foot in the facility if I'm honest.

I've changed my perspective on the guy.

and it's a 'No' from me.

What are you hearing? I'm hearing he wasn't a fan of Tua and wanted Herbert in the draft but the owner wanted Tua.

It's no secret Tua is not the guy and Herbert is a rising star.

Flores as a defensive coach wouldn't be saddled with all the politics the HC has to deal with...perfect fit for a good coach IMO

Posted: **January 16th, 2022, 6:03 am**

sanbagger wrote: ↑January 16th, 2022, 4:48 am
UK Rams Fan wrote: ↑January 16th, 2022, 4:06 am From what I am hearing about the the real reasons Flores lost his job in Miami, I'd rather he didn't set foot in the facility if I'm honest.

I've changed my perspective on the guy.

and it's a 'No' from me.
What are you hearing? I'm hearing he wasn't a fan of Tua and wanted Herbert in the draft but the owner wanted Tua.

It's no secret Tua is not the guy and Herbert is a rising star.

Flores as a defensive coach wouldn't be saddled with all the politics the HC has to deal with...perfect fit for a good coach IMO

Whether he wanted Herbert or not, his persistence in trying to lure Watson in to replace Tua caused friction between the two which then resulted in a falling out between him and Grier (GM) where they didn't actually talk to each other from the midway point of the reg season.

Doesn't sound like the guy can handle conflicts of interest very well and then throws his toys out of the pram when he doesn't always get his way. We need the level headed types who are an influence in the dressing room and not disrupters like him.

Posted: **January 16th, 2022, 7:02 am**

Flores will be Texan’s HC

Posted: **January 16th, 2022, 7:20 am**

UK Rams Fan wrote: ↑January 16th, 2022, 6:03 am
sanbagger wrote: ↑January 16th, 2022, 4:48 am What are you hearing? I'm hearing he wasn't a fan of Tua and wanted Herbert in the draft but the owner wanted Tua.

It's no secret Tua is not the guy and Herbert is a rising star.

Flores as a defensive coach wouldn't be saddled with all the politics the HC has to deal with...perfect fit for a good coach IMO
Whether he wanted Herbert or not, his persistence in trying to lure Watson in to replace Tua caused friction between the two which then resulted in a falling out between him and Grier (GM) where they didn't actually talk to each other from the midway point of the reg season.

Doesn't sound like the guy can handle conflicts of interest very well and then throws his toys out of the pram when he doesn't always get his way. We need the level headed types who are an influence in the dressing room and not disrupters like him.

Disrupter? The owner insisted on Tua despite what his football people said....Watson was interested in Miami because of Flores, now he MTL won't entertain that place.

The relationship between Coach, GM, and owner was strained, and Flores is a fiery guy, but that is all head coach duties....which I believe he will get a HC job....Vikings?.....but with the Rams he would be a coordinator and doesn't have to worry about doing people stuff.

Flores is a hell of a coach and I was very impressed with what ge did in Miami with what he had to work with.

Posted: **January 21st, 2022, 3:03 pm**

If Morris gets a HC job another option can be

Posted: **January 22nd, 2022, 7:30 am**

In reference to Flores, when your ownership fires you after a season in which your team was competitive and overachieved, that’s a huge red flag. Could they be scapegoating him to justify making a change? Maybe. If we were to make a change at DC (which I’m not convinced will happen), I’d be more comfortable with Fangio or Martindale as options.

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