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Agree. What the article explains is what happened.
Either way Ramsey handled the situation wrong. You don’t hit your teammate in the defensive huddle on the field. If Rapp is out of position why didn’t the coach correct him from the sidelines. Ramsey is a great player but sometimes it seems like his actions are extremely selfish and self centered. How do you think he would have reacted if Rapp hit him? He needs to just do his own job and let the coaches coach.eas-rams wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 10:34 am Not sure if this was posted already, pretty in-depth explanation. Honestly, my first inclination was to blame Ramsey. Guess I was wrong.
https://ramblinfan.com/2022/01/03/why-l ... ek-17-win/
Team leaders take control on the field..Ramsey said something and Rapp smarted off...Ramsey checked him...there you go....I don't have an issue with itRaminec wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 10:53 amEither way Ramsey handled the situation wrong. You don’t hit your teammate in the defensive huddle on the field. If Rapp is out of position why didn’t the coach correct him from the sidelines. Ramsey is a great player but sometimes it seems like his actions are extremely selfish and self centered. How do you think he would have reacted if Rapp hit him? He needs to just do his own job and let the coaches coach.eas-rams wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 10:34 am Not sure if this was posted already, pretty in-depth explanation. Honestly, my first inclination was to blame Ramsey. Guess I was wrong.
https://ramblinfan.com/2022/01/03/why-l ... ek-17-win/
not sure what that has to do with anything... I don't think the punch was a big deal, what I wanted to know was why it happened. And the article explains that, moreover how the defense reacted after the incident.Timking124 wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 11:01 am It's apparent that some of you guys never played competitive sports. This is not as big of a deal as you guys are trying to make it out to be. The punch happened on the first drive and the defense played well throughout the game. We don't know Ramsey's and Rapps relationship and we may never know. Watch the games and be entertained. If it didn't effect the game why does it matter, let the rams handle whatever internally.
My post wasn't directed at you. I just don't get why some people are so infatuated with drama that has no baring on the outcome and seemed to be resolved internally.eas-rams wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 11:48 amnot sure what that has to do with anything... I don't think the punch was a big deal, what I wanted to know was why it happened. And the article explains that, moreover how the defense reacted after the incident.Timking124 wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 11:01 am It's apparent that some of you guys never played competitive sports. This is not as big of a deal as you guys are trying to make it out to be. The punch happened on the first drive and the defense played well throughout the game. We don't know Ramsey's and Rapps relationship and we may never know. Watch the games and be entertained. If it didn't effect the game why does it matter, let the rams handle whatever internally.
Here we go with the condescending BS. Nope sorry, it's never been okay to do this - show up your own coaches, your own teammates like this. The replays were shown all day on national tv. So, sorry. It's up for discussion. He already got one free pass when he was screaming at his coach....... Sure, he is a great player, we are in first place and he has his money -- so we are fine. But you know when this stuff affects the outcome of games? it's when things start to go south that this kind of stuff makes it unravel. Then when it starts to unravel, the prima donna's like him are the first ones to bail. You'll see. It''ll happen with this guy. We already have a track record. Great talent but already we see glimpses of the ahole inside of him, waiting to come out.Timking124 wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 11:01 am It's apparent that some of you guys never played competitive sports. This is not as big of a deal as you guys are trying to make it out to be. The punch happened on the first drive and the defense played well throughout the game. We don't know Ramsey's and Rapps relationship and we may never know. Watch the games and be entertained. If it didn't effect the game why does it matter, let the rams handle whatever internally.
Yep.BrooklynRam74 wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 10:59 amI hold my breath after every play Ramsey is in on that he's gonna get a flag. He's always extra-agressive and taunts too much.Raminec wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 10:53 am Either way Ramsey handled the situation wrong. You don’t hit your teammate in the defensive huddle on the field. If Rapp is out of position why didn’t the coach correct him from the sidelines. Ramsey is a great player but sometimes it seems like his actions are extremely selfish and self centered. How do you think he would have reacted if Rapp hit him? He needs to just do his own job and let the coaches coach.
OLBers was a weak spot...now with Floyd and Von that leak in the Dyke is repaired.BrooklynRam74 wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 12:45 pmJohnson better than Floyd a bit of a stretch. Very close.NN1Badboy wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 12:36 pm I’m not happy with players fighting amongst themselves. But someone has to hold these guys accountable. Rapp has been the weak link in the secondary all season. It wasn’t the right way to do it, but it’s about time someone put him in his place.
Boy do we miss John Johnson. Just imagine how much better this defense would be if he were back there playing center field. I know we were limited on money and we had to make a decision between JJ and Floyd. I think because we had better depth at safety than we did at linebacker, we chose Floyd, but i’ve always thought that Johnson was the better player. Rapp will never be able to fill his shoes.
I rather have Floyd. Pass rushers are hard to find especially ones that knows how to set the edge. There were cheap safety options out there but the rams didn't sign them. I wish they would have.BrooklynRam74 wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 12:45 pmJohnson better than Floyd a bit of a stretch. Very close.NN1Badboy wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 12:36 pm I’m not happy with players fighting amongst themselves. But someone has to hold these guys accountable. Rapp has been the weak link in the secondary all season. It wasn’t the right way to do it, but it’s about time someone put him in his place.
Boy do we miss John Johnson. Just imagine how much better this defense would be if he were back there playing center field. I know we were limited on money and we had to make a decision between JJ and Floyd. I think because we had better depth at safety than we did at linebacker, we chose Floyd, but i’ve always thought that Johnson was the better player. Rapp will never be able to fill his shoes.
Okay, tough guy. We'll take note...lolsanbagger wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 11:00 amTeam leaders take control on the field..Ramsey said something and Rapp smarted off...Ramsey checked him...there you go....I don't have an issue with itRaminec wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 10:53 am Either way Ramsey handled the situation wrong. You don’t hit your teammate in the defensive huddle on the field. If Rapp is out of position why didn’t the coach correct him from the sidelines. Ramsey is a great player but sometimes it seems like his actions are extremely selfish and self centered. How do you think he would have reacted if Rapp hit him? He needs to just do his own job and let the coaches coach.
thank you for the link...it does clearly explain the issue...Ramsey wants to win, puts it all on the line and will call out whomever is not on the same page, I don't have a real problem with that, the D moved on and played a solid game.eas-rams wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 10:34 am Not sure if this was posted already, pretty in-depth explanation. Honestly, my first inclination was to blame Ramsey. Guess I was wrong.
https://ramblinfan.com/2022/01/03/why-l ... ek-17-win/
Tough guy?...How about talking some football huh?
According to the article it not only effected the game it changed it to a win.Timking124 wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 11:01 amIf it didn't effect the game why does it matter, let the rams handle whatever internally.
YupFearsome Foursome wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 4:09 pm Bret, the writer of the article, you are spot on! I too am a critic of Rapp this season. I am guessing the reason he is not making "mistakes" lately as he has been earlier this season (missed tackles and coverages) is because he is looking out for himself. Meaning, he plays safe, where he plays far away from run support and covers only deep passes, keeps everything in front. He doesn't make plays. Plays safe! I thought he should of been replaced earlier this season with Terrell Burgess or even Robert Rochelle 4th round pick, 6'2" 195lbs.
As for Ramsey, I admire his talent and leadership! That push on Rapp, shook up the team to be more committed and focused. Spot on analysis! Thanks!
My opinion completely changed after reading the article - even Reeder pointed out to Rapp that he was too far back. Hopefully Morris gets this corrected, this will be critical in the playoffs.Cornell29 wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 4:44 pmYupFearsome Foursome wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 4:09 pm Bret, the writer of the article, you are spot on! I too am a critic of Rapp this season. I am guessing the reason he is not making "mistakes" lately as he has been earlier this season (missed tackles and coverages) is because he is looking out for himself. Meaning, he plays safe, where he plays far away from run support and covers only deep passes, keeps everything in front. He doesn't make plays. Plays safe! I thought he should of been replaced earlier this season with Terrell Burgess or even Robert Rochelle 4th round pick, 6'2" 195lbs.
As for Ramsey, I admire his talent and leadership! That push on Rapp, shook up the team to be more committed and focused. Spot on analysis! Thanks!
It's easy to not mess up and keep everything in front of you when you are covering grass most of the time.
sanbagger wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 11:00 amTeam leaders take control on the field..Ramsey said something and Rapp smarted off...Ramsey checked him...there you go....I don't have an issue with itRaminec wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 10:53 am
Plus 1, I think he was trying to get his attention. Hopefully, it benefits us going forward
Either way Ramsey handled the situation wrong. You don’t hit your teammate in the defensive huddle on the field. If Rapp is out of position why didn’t the coach correct him from the sidelines. Ramsey is a great player but sometimes it seems like his actions are extremely selfish and self centered. How do you think he would have reacted if Rapp hit him? He needs to just do his own job and let the coaches coach.
I agree with the premise of your take. I was in the Navy several years, back then things got "settled" in the "Bos'n Locker" when divides like this occurred. Whether he or she was superior in rank or not. In the real working world that we all do today, Jalen would be fired and rightfully so. In professional sports or the military... Jalen was spot on if the article's findings were correct and Rapp was doing his own thing. I will say the defense played a lot better after that incident. I agree on that point the article states for sure.sanbagger wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 11:00 amTeam leaders take control on the field..Ramsey said something and Rapp smarted off...Ramsey checked him...there you go....I don't have an issue with itRaminec wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2022, 10:53 am Either way Ramsey handled the situation wrong. You don’t hit your teammate in the defensive huddle on the field. If Rapp is out of position why didn’t the coach correct him from the sidelines. Ramsey is a great player but sometimes it seems like his actions are extremely selfish and self centered. How do you think he would have reacted if Rapp hit him? He needs to just do his own job and let the coaches coach.