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Perkins has had a ton of opportunities and Im sorry but he didn't show me enough.

Runs too much.

Holds the ball waaaaaaay too long.

Never seems to be decisive about hitting his receivers always second guessing himself.

Most of his passes were really short ones very few deep crossers, deep outs, hardly any bombs, awful last drive.

I know he may get snapped up, but for me carrying 3 QBs is not smart when there are some OLBs, DL that need to make the team.

I'm 60/40 that Perkins doesn't make the team, keeping 3 qbs will be tough. With that said, unless the lions take him, I think Perkins makes it yo the practice squad.

Perkins imo is still a work in progress. I think teams won't take him off if waivers prior to the reg season. Once Perkins clear waivers the rams can put him on the Practice Squad and protect and stop any team from getting him.

Cut him move on
Way to indecisive way too slow release
Not accurate deep or intermediate

I couldn't disagree more. He had to play with his second and third-string units and he was still able to sustain drives downfield. I agree about the long ball, but the O-line never gave him enough time to go deep. Numerous times he looked to his second, third, and sometimes fourth progressions. Which is 3 more looks than Goff showed us in the last 2 years. He makes BIG plays with his legs and from what I saw ran only when necessary. Over a 17 game season, you need 3 QBs.

He will probably get cut because his spot will be needed elsewhere.

Rams then will hope like hell no one will pick him up so they can bring him back to practice squad.

He was also making plays against 2nd n 3 rd teams

He sucks

47 Gap wrote: ↑August 28th, 2021, 10:47 pm I couldn't disagree more. He had to play with his second and third-string units and he was still able to sustain drives downfield. I agree about the long ball, but the O-line never gave him enough time to go deep. Numerous times he looked to his second, third, and sometimes fourth progressions. Which is 3 more looks than Goff showed us in the last 2 years. He makes BIG plays with his legs and from what I saw ran only when necessary. Over a 17 game season, you need 3 QBs.

Most of the time he played against 2nd stringers minus first half of last night. After they left he didn't do any better against 2s/3s.

DMRamFan wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 6:51 am I don’t get this reasoning, like at all.

It’s Covid rules guys, we have no idea who’s going to suit up on Sundays or not. Perkins is our insurance policy. He’s green, lots to learn, but he has it. He’ll come around. Have to keep ALL THREE QB’s. Shouldn’t even be a question imo.

That's my thinking. I agree with others that he's just a bit slow with his decisions, but let's face it. Covid adds a totally new factor here. I think they need to keep 3 QBs. For that reason, he may not even be safe on the PS.

I have nothing against Perkins but we need his roster spot for a DB or DL that's going to play every game. I'd rather have JuJu Hughes, Michael Hoecht, and a few others over Perkins.

A'Shawn and Obo won't be available to start the season so I'd allocate that roster spot to defense.

Ramsfan08ny wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:34 am

DMRamFan wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 6:51 am I don’t get this reasoning, like at all.

It’s Covid rules guys, we have no idea who’s going to suit up on Sundays or not. Perkins is our insurance policy. He’s green, lots to learn, but he has it. He’ll come around. Have to keep ALL THREE QB’s. Shouldn’t even be a question imo.

That's my thinking. I agree with others that he's just a bit slow with his decisions, but let's face it. Covid adds a totally new factor here. I think they need to keep 3 QBs. For that reason, he may not even be safe on the PS.

If Perkins makes the team he trains with the other 2 qbs. So if one of the qbs gets covid, all 3 qbs will be out the following week.
If Perkins makes the PS, he can be protected by the rams, no one else will be able to claim him. Perkins also will be kept separate from the other QBs, bc he is on the practice squad. If the qb room gets infected he still can play the following week.

Cornell29 wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:53 am

Ramsfan08ny wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:34 am That's my thinking. I agree with others that he's just a bit slow with his decisions, but let's face it. Covid adds a totally new factor here. I think they need to keep 3 QBs. For that reason, he may not even be safe on the PS.

If Perkins makes the PS, he can be protected by the rams, no one else will be able to claim him.

Is there a new rule protecting PS players?

49RH8R wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:57 am

Cornell29 wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:53 am If Perkins makes the PS, he can be protected by the rams, no one else will be able to claim him.

Is there a new rule protecting PS players?

Only if he clears waivers, which won’t happen.

I highly doubt he'd clear waivers. Keep him and waive another player under the radar then move Perkins to PS. Perkins dies need more zip on his ball though. ...

49RH8R wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:57 am

Cornell29 wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:53 am If Perkins makes the PS, he can be protected by the rams, no one else will be able to claim him.

Is there a new rule protecting PS players?

Yes. Up to 4 players can be protected weekly. New rule.

Cornell29 wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:53 am

Ramsfan08ny wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:34 am That's my thinking. I agree with others that he's just a bit slow with his decisions, but let's face it. Covid adds a totally new factor here. I think they need to keep 3 QBs. For that reason, he may not even be safe on the PS.

If Perkins makes the team he trains with the other 2 qbs. So if one of the qbs gets covid, all 3 qbs will be out the following week.
If Perkins makes the PS, he can be protected by the rams, no one else will be able to claim him. Perkins also will be kept separate from the other QBs, bc he is on the practice squad. If the qb room gets infected he still can play the following week.

Mu understanding of the practice squad is those guys practice WITH the team all week and go about the business as though they were on the 53....they just don't suit up and play on Sundays nor do they travel with the team.

Thanks, I didn't know about that rule.

Did Perkins throw long at any point in the preseason? He aired one out last night (kind of) but it was incomplete.

UplandRam wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 9:02 am

49RH8R wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:57 am Is there a new rule protecting PS players?

Only if he clears waivers, which won’t happen.

Realistically what team will pick him up now, when they are trying to keep their own top 53 players. Of course it could happen, but my guess is its 75/25 that he clears waivers. He is still a work in progress, no starting experience and teams around the league are trying to keep their best 53.

One thing for sure it'll be interesting.

sanbagger wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 9:04 am

Cornell29 wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:53 am If Perkins makes the team he trains with the other 2 qbs. So if one of the qbs gets covid, all 3 qbs will be out the following week.
If Perkins makes the PS, he can be protected by the rams, no one else will be able to claim him. Perkins also will be kept separate from the other QBs, bc he is on the practice squad. If the qb room gets infected he still can play the following week.

Mu understanding of the practice squad is those guys practice WITH the team all week and go about the business as though they were on the 53....they just don't suit up and play on Sundays nor do they travel with the team.

Your right, he still trains with them. So while him not traveling with the team slightly reduces the chance of getting covid on away games. It's minimal at best.
The problem I have is having 3 qbs doesn't do much to reduce the risks of covid outbreak in the qb room. If one qb gets covid or come in contact with someone with covid, all 3 qbs could be out the following game. I would think they would keep the third qb separate from the others. Practice squad or not.

Cornell29 wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 9:07 am

UplandRam wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 9:02 am Only if he clears waivers, which won’t happen.

Realistically what team will pick him up now, when they are trying to keep their own top 53 players. Of course it could happen, but my guess is its 75/25 that he clears waivers. He is still a work in progress, no starting experience and teams around the league are trying to keep their best 53.

One thing for sure it'll be interesting.

That's kind of how I feel. Is some team dying to get Perkins as a backup QB? Every team in the NFL is jettisoning fringe QB's so Perkins will have a lot of competition.

If McVay is smart he should wait until the last minute to make the cuts. It kind of dicks the player but it helps the team and that's more important. Plus, they will have jobs on the Rams' PS.

DMRamFan wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 9:18 am

Cornell29 wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 9:13 am Your right, he still trains with them. So while him not traveling with the team slightly reduces the chance of getting covid on away games. It's minimal at best.
The problem I have is having 3 qbs doesn't do much to reduce the risks of covid outbreak in the qb room. If one qb gets covid or come in contact with someone with covid, all 3 qbs could be out the following game. I would think they would keep the third qb separate from the others. Practice squad or not.

I’m not sure of the rules when it comes to how the NFL oversees team meetings and practices. But what I would do is have Perkins practice separately from Wolf and Stafford. Keep as 3rd string. Not sure the exact semantics and how it could work, but we have to think outside the box but w in the rules these days.

The minute we go to put Perkins on the PS, he’s gone. You can book that one.

If he makes it to the PS, the rams can protect him. Teams won't be able to steal him. I get what you and others are saying. There is a risk he doesn't clear waivers.

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NFL to carry over flexible roster rules for 2021 season

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The NFL will carry over a series of 2020 roster rules designed to maintain adequate numbers if players are sidelined by positive COVID-19 tests.


The decision had been long anticipated but was confirmed during a media briefing Friday by Dawn Aponte, the NFL's chief football administrative officer.

The rules include:

Expansion of practice squads to 16 players, including up to six who have more than two accrued seasons.

The ability to protect up to four practice squad players per week from being signed by other teams.

Elevation of up to two practice squad players to the active roster, without removing any current players, before 4 p.m. ET the day before a game.

Elevation of an additional practice squad player within 90 minutes before kickoff in the event of a late COVID-19 positive test result.

Players placed on injured reserve can return after three weeks, rather than six as in normal seasons.

Removal of the limit for how many players can be activated from injured reserve.

49RH8R wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:51 am I have nothing against Perkins but we need his roster spot for a DB or DL that's going to play every game. I'd rather have JuJu Hughes, Michael Hoecht, and a few others over Perkins.

A'Shawn and Obo won't be available to start the season so I'd allocate that roster spot to defense.

This!!!^

This is what some of you are not seeing. There are 53 players more needed than him right now than a 3rd string QB who probably isn’t getting onto the field the entire season.

I say keep Perkins but trade or cut Wolfie.

I think Perkins will turn into a first rate QB behind a starting Oline and WRs.

Wolfie has shown me nothing.

I would rather keep two punters than Perkins.

DMRamFan wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 10:07 am

NorCal RF wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 9:48 am This!!!^

This is what some of you are not seeing. There are 53 players more needed than him right now than a 3rd string QB who probably isn’t getting onto the field the entire season.

I see everything just fine, NC.

I want to also keep Perkins for the long term. I’m not sure Stafford will stay healthy and Wolford could fizzle. Imo it’s much harder to find a QB like Perkins than a back up or 3rd string DB. I hear you though, it important to find a guy where they could see some game action (DB/OG/OT/OLB). But again, it’s much harder to find a Perkins than some no name back up. If we need to fill a DB spot, won’t be hard to find.

And I do too, at least for now, but I’ll chance it via waivers and hopefully then PS. Too much other talent on this team that is needed now not long term that if cut won’t get past waivers.

If he gets picked up ok oh well. I think there is plenty of development QB’s target for the role of 3rd QB for a few years in the draft every year.

I’m not cutting a Hoect, Banks, an additional DB or that 9th OL for a roster spot for Perkins. And again I like Perkins but I’m just not.

On a side note man Griese was convinced on the Bronco telecast that Perkins will be cut. Had to laugh because I certainly don’t think it’s a given Snead and McCay will. But he couldn’t stop saying McVay won’t keep 3 QB’s.

sanbagger wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 9:04 am

Cornell29 wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 8:53 am If Perkins makes the team he trains with the other 2 qbs. So if one of the qbs gets covid, all 3 qbs will be out the following week.
If Perkins makes the PS, he can be protected by the rams, no one else will be able to claim him. Perkins also will be kept separate from the other QBs, bc he is on the practice squad. If the qb room gets infected he still can play the following week.

Mu understanding of the practice squad is those guys practice WITH the team all week and go about the business as though they were on the 53....they just don't suit up and play on Sundays nor do they travel with the team.

It depends on the team. Last year, Jake Fromm never practiced with the Bills once. He was the emergency Covid QB on the practice squad. Sucks to be in that position but someone needs to do it.

I think Perkins would clear waivers. It would be the risk that I am willing to take. I would rather have another player taking up the 53rd spot. Hopefully it is a position that we will never need. Fill anyone in that spot for 1 game.

Bulldawg wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 10:57 am

sanbagger wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 9:04 am Mu understanding of the practice squad is those guys practice WITH the team all week and go about the business as though they were on the 53....they just don't suit up and play on Sundays nor do they travel with the team.

It depends on the team. Last year, Jake Fromm never practiced with the Bills once. He was the emergency Covid QB on the practice squad. Sucks to be in that position but someone needs to do it.

I think Perkins would clear waivers. It would be the risk that I am willing to take. I would rather have another player taking up the 53rd spot. Hopefully it is a position that we will never need. Fill anyone in that spot for 1 game.

I would imagine they would have some form of emeergency plan in place just in case......would be foolish not to IMO.

Also....during the regular season back-ups mostly watch as the #1's work on game plan installation during the week.

I would think the most learning is in film study and watching Stafford

A different perspective. Grades from PFF and summary from DaSilva

Bryce Perkins: 53.0
Xavier Jones: 51.4
Jacob Harris: 49.9
J.J. Koski: 48.8
Jeremiah Kolone: 44.2
Surprisingly, Perkins and Jones were both in the bottom five on offense despite being two of the most productive players for the Rams. Jones was noticeably bad in pass protection, allowing one sack and another pressure when he was beat by blitzers up the middle. Harris didn’t catch any of his three targets and Koski hauled in just one of his four targets for 5 yards, proving ineffective as a receiver.

I hope the Rams trade either Wolford/Perkins for the highest value, and then keep the guy not traded as #2.

I absolutely would not keep all 3 on the 53. If you can’t trade 1 of them, I’d go with Perkins at #2 and Wolford PS. I think Perkins gives them something completely different than what Stafford does and thus opponents would be at a bigger disadvantage if Perkins relieved Stafford than if Wolford did

Or if they go New Orleans and use Perkins like a slightly smaller Hill...