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Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 12:44 pm**

He stated Rams have small finesse CB and are weak and smallish @ C/OG. Also noted CB not addressed in the draft. His question : Do you stand pat @ trade deadline & address these issues or ??? To fight that hard and control the game on the road @ SB Champs house and give it up is maddening- Will the Rams HC/ FO act ? Any answers in house ? What do you think ? Apparently it was considered more important to drop $10 million on a 156 lb WR than a real C ? G ? CB with size ? This is not bitching or ragging the FO but these are HUGE roster errors and it does not include our 2nd round TE pick who cannot get in the mix ?

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 1:39 pm**

Avila was out we are fine at G. DB was undortunate we lost Ahkello but every twam loses somebody that invturn becomes a weakness see SF with Bosa going down for the rest of the year.

Every team has weaknesses and strengths. The Philly game was lost on 2 fluke blocked kicks only 19 happened in the season last year. The Rams loojed amazing last week and my guess will roll the rest of the season. That game was an outlier for a myriad of reasons. Poster J. Youngblood pointed out we are 107-1 when leading by 19 in the 3rd quarter. Thatcgoes back to 1984. We will be fine.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 2:41 pm**

Maybe we will be - maybe not. His point seemed to be these roster holes were known and not addressed for whatever reason. As anyone who follows him knows, Colin is a huge Rams & McVay fan to the point of being an apologist- so he puts out the question of what will be done about these issues in this season. I think it is a fair question to ask for a team purported to be a legit SB contender.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 3:14 pm**

This is why I wanted Ramsey back.

Even if not absolute prime Ramsey, still better than what we had. And might have provided some structure back there.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 3:46 pm**

D-GenerationX wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 3:14 pm This is why I wanted Ramsey back.

Even if not absolute prime Ramsey, still better than what we had. And might have provided some structure back there.

Yeah, but we would have heard how much of a "thug" he is.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 3:46 pm**

A few things……..

Putting together an NFL roster is not a perfect science. If it was you would go 17-0 every year…….

I laugh after a loss, mind you maybe the toughest one regular season ever, that some quickly go after the roster deficiencies(we have determined this already after 3 games) of players obtained via the draft or FA, while we don’t mention all on the current roster that were damn good picks. Perfection or else. Do we want to start with Nacua……..

Does FO act? Like good CB and OL are just going to be available in a league that everyone is looking for such help. Sure you can pay for it but here comes soon the salary cap complaints………

Atwell yep looks like paid too much. This never happens with any other team in the league………

It was a devastating loss that doesn’t warrant over reaction. Again the entire team was to blame……

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 4:08 pm**

NorCal RF wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 3:46 pm A few things……..

Putting together an NFL roster is not a perfect science. If it was you would go 17-0 every year…….

I laugh after a loss, mind you maybe the toughest one regular season ever, that some quickly go after the roster deficiencies(we have determined this already after 3 games) of players obtained via the draft or FA, while we don’t mention all on the current roster that were damn good picks. Perfection or else. Do we want to start with Nacua……..

Does FO act? Like good CB and OL are just going to be available in a league that everyone is looking for such help. Sure you can pay for it but here comes soon the salary cap complaints………

Atwell yep looks like paid too much. This never happens with any other team in the league………

It was a devastating loss that doesn’t warrant over reaction. Again the entire team was to blame……

CB and OL was a huge need going into the draft and they didn't address it at all. that is a very fair criticism. then you trade out of the 1st round and use your 2nd round pick on a TE who wasn't even active on sunday. So let's take a look at the 2025 draft. Sure it's early but so far zero impact players out of this draft. you can't sustain greatness with this going on.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 4:13 pm**

ocram23 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 4:08 pm
NorCal RF wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 3:46 pm A few things……..

Putting together an NFL roster is not a perfect science. If it was you would go 17-0 every year…….

I laugh after a loss, mind you maybe the toughest one regular season ever, that some quickly go after the roster deficiencies(we have determined this already after 3 games) of players obtained via the draft or FA, while we don’t mention all on the current roster that were damn good picks. Perfection or else. Do we want to start with Nacua……..

Does FO act? Like good CB and OL are just going to be available in a league that everyone is looking for such help. Sure you can pay for it but here comes soon the salary cap complaints………

Atwell yep looks like paid too much. This never happens with any other team in the league………

It was a devastating loss that doesn’t warrant over reaction. Again the entire team was to blame……
CB and OL was a huge need going into the draft and they didn't address it at all. that is a very fair criticism. then you trade out of the 1st round and use your 2nd round pick on a TE who wasn't even active on sunday. So let's take a look at the 2025 draft. Sure it's early but so far zero impact players out of this draft. you can't sustain greatness with this going on.

Understood. But we may need to acknowledge they didn’t feel it was a huge need. I’m not saying I agree but they appeared to like both units with a few comments going into the season.

I saw enough of Ferguson at Oregon to know he can play. And that IMO is a position of need. But we both know McVay has a history of “red shirting” rookies. Not a fan but he does. I’m ready for a TE1 n TE2 of Ferguson n Allen……..

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 4:51 pm**

NorCal RF wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 4:13 pm
ocram23 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 4:08 pm

CB and OL was a huge need going into the draft and they didn't address it at all. that is a very fair criticism. then you trade out of the 1st round and use your 2nd round pick on a TE who wasn't even active on sunday. So let's take a look at the 2025 draft. Sure it's early but so far zero impact players out of this draft. you can't sustain greatness with this going on.
Understood. But we may need to acknowledge they didn’t feel it was a huge need. I’m not saying I agree but they appeared to like both units with a few comments going into the season.

I saw enough of Ferguson at Oregon to know he can play. And that IMO is a position of need. But we both know McVay has a history of “red shirting” rookies. Not a fan but he does. I’m ready for a TE1 n TE2 of Ferguson n Allen……..

yeah I think you are right about the redshirting. makes zero sense to me. hopefully these guys will make some sort of impact this year. crazy to me they need a QB in the draft next year and I have only seen one that looks worth it, Mateer at OU, and he just had thumb injury and may not be out for the year. Nobody has stepped up yet

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 5:58 pm**

Questions on roster formation, not playing high draft picks, overpaying players on your roster who do not play/contribute and not addressing glaring position holes are all legitimate topics for discussion in a team forum. Attempting to discredit or shut down people who bring these issues up for discussion, whether it is game 3 or 7 or 11 is not a healthy atmosphere. There is a considerable amount of that on display here by some. This was to be a season to chase the SB in likely MS last rodeo and hard, fair questions should be heard and discussed without attack from apologists who have a different view.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 7:31 pm**

When one though spends most of their time attacking it can be difficult to take one serious when on those few occasions they have some validity to attack……….

Some confuse apologists to facts. Example where is one finding a quality CB or OL once the season starts without paying a significant price either with picks or more so a cap hit. Actual FO decisions not fantasy football…….

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 7:34 pm**

ocram23 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 4:51 pm
NorCal RF wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 4:13 pm

Understood. But we may need to acknowledge they didn’t feel it was a huge need. I’m not saying I agree but they appeared to like both units with a few comments going into the season.

I saw enough of Ferguson at Oregon to know he can play. And that IMO is a position of need. But we both know McVay has a history of “red shirting” rookies. Not a fan but he does. I’m ready for a TE1 n TE2 of Ferguson n Allen……..
yeah I think you are right about the redshirting. makes zero sense to me. hopefully these guys will make some sort of impact this year. crazy to me they need a QB in the draft next year and I have only seen one that looks worth it, Mateer at OU, and he just had thumb injury and may not be out for the year. Nobody has stepped up yet

College QB situation certainly has been a bit disappointing so far. It’s why I think Bennett is still on roster…….

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 7:42 pm**

NorCal RF wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 7:34 pm
ocram23 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 4:51 pm

yeah I think you are right about the redshirting. makes zero sense to me. hopefully these guys will make some sort of impact this year. crazy to me they need a QB in the draft next year and I have only seen one that looks worth it, Mateer at OU, and he just had thumb injury and may not be out for the year. Nobody has stepped up yet
College QB situation certainly has been a bit disappointing so far. It’s why I think Bennett is still on roster…….

it may work for the best because they won't have to trade up to get a QB.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 7:55 pm**

nobody complained more in the off-season than I did about not addressing the cb position, the center position and the linebacker position

by some miracle we may have found a linebacker, we didn't lose the game because of cornerbacks

We lost the game because of special teams and red zone offense

We ran the ball very well, really only let up one sack, Stafford played very poorly in the red zone, McVay coached very poorly in the red zone

I think we need Avila and Dotson to get healthy, we need to fix the kicking game blocking scheme and for me, I would put Limmer at Center even though he absolutely sucked at guard

We need a corner back and if we could find one during the season, that would be great, Forbes Jr does not look bad Kobie Durant is good, Williams is not

we have some work to do but that was a fluke loss that we win 9/10 times

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 8:01 pm**

therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 7:55 pm nobody complained more in the off-season than I did about not addressing the cb position, the center position and the linebacker position

by some miracle we may have found a linebacker, we didn't lose the game because of cornerbacks

We lost the game because of special teams and red zone offense

We ran the ball very well, really only let up one sack, Stafford played very poorly in the red zone, McVay coached very poorly in the red zone

I think we need Avila and Dotson to get healthy, we need to fix the kicking game blocking scheme and for me, I would put Limmer at Center even though he absolutely sucked at guard

We need a corner back and if we could find one during the season, that would be great, Forbes Jr does not look bad Kobie Durant is good, Williams is not

we have some work to do but that was a fluke loss that we win 9/10 times

“Agree^ but there was more…….

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 8:03 pm**

therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 7:55 pm nobody complained more in the off-season than I did about not addressing the cb position, the center position and the linebacker position

by some miracle we may have found a linebacker, we didn't lose the game because of cornerbacks

We lost the game because of special teams and red zone offense

We ran the ball very well, really only let up one sack, Stafford played very poorly in the red zone, McVay coached very poorly in the red zone

I think we need Avila and Dotson to get healthy, we need to fix the kicking game blocking scheme and for me, I would put Limmer at Center even though he absolutely sucked at guard

We need a corner back and if we could find one during the season, that would be great, Forbes Jr does not look bad Kobie Durant is good, Williams is not

we have some work to do but that was a fluke loss that we win 9/10 times

“ Stafford played very poorly in the red zone,”

Agree again. Plays called left him with open receivers in RZ………

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 8:04 pm**

therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 7:55 pm nobody complained more in the off-season than I did about not addressing the cb position, the center position and the linebacker position

by some miracle we may have found a linebacker, we didn't lose the game because of cornerbacks

We lost the game because of special teams and red zone offense

We ran the ball very well, really only let up one sack, Stafford played very poorly in the red zone, McVay coached very poorly in the red zone

I think we need Avila and Dotson to get healthy, we need to fix the kicking game blocking scheme and for me, I would put Limmer at Center even though he absolutely sucked at guard

We need a corner back and if we could find one during the season, that would be great, Forbes Jr does not look bad Kobie Durant is good, Williams is not

we have some work to do but that was a fluke loss that we win 9/10 times

“ I think we need Avila and Dotson to get healthy,”

Agree again…….

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 8:05 pm**

therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 7:55 pm nobody complained more in the off-season than I did about not addressing the cb position, the center position and the linebacker position

by some miracle we may have found a linebacker, we didn't lose the game because of cornerbacks

We lost the game because of special teams and red zone offense

We ran the ball very well, really only let up one sack, Stafford played very poorly in the red zone, McVay coached very poorly in the red zone

I think we need Avila and Dotson to get healthy, we need to fix the kicking game blocking scheme and for me, I would put Limmer at Center even though he absolutely sucked at guard

We need a corner back and if we could find one during the season, that would be great, Forbes Jr does not look bad Kobie Durant is good, Williams is not

we have some work to do but that was a fluke loss that we win 9/10 times

“ we have some work to do but that was a fluke loss that we win 9/10 times”

Fluke or not it can’t happen. On everyone including HC……

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 8:08 pm**

ocram23 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 7:42 pm
NorCal RF wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 7:34 pm

College QB situation certainly has been a bit disappointing so far. It’s why I think Bennett is still on roster…….
it may work for the best because they won't have to trade up to get a QB.

Agree. And let’s face it McVay is going to draft a QB that he feels fits him n that can be anywhere in draft…….

And I wouldn’t be surprised if they flash those 2 picks n maybe add another first to a team to try to trade for one already in league if Stafford does retire…….

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 10:08 pm**

malibu wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 1:39 pm Avila was out we are fine at G. DB was undortunate we lost Ahkello but every twam loses somebody that invturn becomes a weakness see SF with Bosa going down for the rest of the year.

Every team has weaknesses and strengths. The Philly game was lost on 2 fluke blocked kicks only 19 happened in the season last year. The Rams loojed amazing last week and my guess will roll the rest of the season. That game was an outlier for a myriad of reasons. Poster J. Youngblood pointed out we are 107-1 when leading by 19 in the 3rd quarter. Thatcgoes back to 1984. We will be fine.

We looked very good for ONE half of that game. The second half was a totally different story. We gave up 3 touchdown drives that covered 42 plays and 252 yards, one drive was 89 yards, the last drive was 91 yards in *19* plays .. how is ANY of that amazing

OTOH, the Rams, one that last drive used 14 plays to go all of 44 yards. TD on their first drive of the second half, then sat on their laurels the rest of the game only to go home with their tails between their legs, having pissed away a game they should have one, against one of the premier teams in the league.

Give Philly credit, they made the plays when they needed them, and they are a damn good football team, but that game was ours to win

Posted: **September 23rd, 2025, 10:13 pm**

therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 7:55 pm nobody complained more in the off-season than I did about not addressing the cb position, the center position and the linebacker position

by some miracle we may have found a linebacker, we didn't lose the game because of cornerbacks

We lost the game because of special teams and red zone offense

We ran the ball very well, really only let up one sack, Stafford played very poorly in the red zone, McVay coached very poorly in the red zone

I think we need Avila and Dotson to get healthy, we need to fix the kicking game blocking scheme and for me, I would put Limmer at Center even though he absolutely sucked at guard

We need a corner back and if we could find one during the season, that would be great, Forbes Jr does not look bad Kobie Durant is good, Williams is not

we have some work to do but that was a fluke loss that we win 9/10 times

No, CB's get their share of the blame, the D crapped the bed in the second half giving up three long drives covering 42 plays and 252 yards. Our DB's got rolled in the second half. The run defense did a pretty solid job, but we still struggle to set the damn edge.

Posted: **September 24th, 2025, 9:53 am**

NorCal RF wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 8:08 pm
ocram23 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 7:42 pm

it may work for the best because they won't have to trade up to get a QB.
Agree. And let’s face it McVay is going to draft a QB that he feels fits him n that can be anywhere in draft…….

And I wouldn’t be surprised if they flash those 2 picks n maybe add another first to a team to try to trade for one already in league if Stafford does retire…….

hmmmm....not sure who is worth trading a 1st rounder for???? I continue to say this maybe you take a run at Justin Fields in FA

Posted: **September 24th, 2025, 12:21 pm**

ocram23 wrote: ↑September 24th, 2025, 9:53 am
NorCal RF wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2025, 8:08 pm

Agree. And let’s face it McVay is going to draft a QB that he feels fits him n that can be anywhere in draft…….

And I wouldn’t be surprised if they flash those 2 picks n maybe add another first to a team to try to trade for one already in league if Stafford does retire…….
hmmmm....not sure who is worth trading a 1st rounder for???? I continue to say this maybe you take a run at Justin Fields in FA

I’m not sure either. But did we ever think Stafford would become available……………

Posted: **September 24th, 2025, 1:13 pm**

My concern is McVay has too many of these collapses now.

2021 vs SF last game
2021 giving up 27-3 lead vs TB
2022 giving up TD to BRady with 42 seconds left on 35 yd line no timeouts
2023 at Ravens Rams have Ravens 3rd and 25 and 4th and 17 to win the game but give up TD on 4th and 17.
2025 debacle Sunday

Too many of these for a future hall of fame coach. I'm sorry heard Aqib Talib talk about how Belichick was always on their ass when they had big leads. I hardly remember a Belichick team losing games like this.

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