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Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 7th, 2025, 8:40 pm
by Jacksnow
Unbelievable. Man glad Rams don't play either team early.

Re: Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 7th, 2025, 9:48 pm
by Rampager66
Jacksnow wrote: September 7th, 2025, 8:40 pm Unbelievable. Man glad Rams don't play either team early.
Why's that? Doesn't look like either can play D....

Re: Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 7th, 2025, 10:00 pm
by Jacksnow
Rampager66 wrote: September 7th, 2025, 9:48 pm
Jacksnow wrote: September 7th, 2025, 8:40 pm Unbelievable. Man glad Rams don't play either team early.
Why's that? Doesn't look like either can play D....
Good point. I was thinking Offense.

Re: Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 7th, 2025, 10:05 pm
by Rampager66
Jacksnow wrote: September 7th, 2025, 10:00 pm
Rampager66 wrote: September 7th, 2025, 9:48 pm

Why's that? Doesn't look like either can play D....
Good point. I was thinking Offense.
Yeah that a good point too. But we look like we can play some D... at least today..

Re: Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 7th, 2025, 10:42 pm
by ocram23
such a great game. King Henry is still unreal. Couple of observations: Josh Allen is the best QB in the NFL.....
Lamar is athletic freak but until he can prove to me he can drop back and hit one of his WR's when it counts he will always a Top 2 guy. HIs coaches don't even trust him to throw the ball when the game is on the line. Not pinning the loss on him but it's the same old Lamar.

Re: Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 8th, 2025, 6:39 am
by CierraRam
ocram23 wrote: September 7th, 2025, 10:42 pm such a great game. King Henry is still unreal. Couple of observations: Josh Allen is the best QB in the NFL.....
Lamar is athletic freak but until he can prove to me he can drop back and hit one of his WR's when it counts he will always a Top 2 guy. HIs coaches don't even trust him to throw the ball when the game is on the line. Not pinning the loss on him but it's the same old Lamar.
You made me laugh.. top 2 huh! No trust to throw with the game on line.. I would say that you're being very generous. That line is normally reserved for the Daniel Jones' of the NFL QB ilk.

All kidding aside, Lamar is the 2nd best QB in any situation. Jayden Daniels might be ascending to take that spot.. but right now no one else is close. Joe Burrow is becoming the new Matt Stafford IMO, and until a Sean McVay or a Ben Johnson comes to the rescue, he may never realize just how good he really is.

Re: Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 8th, 2025, 8:25 am
by ocram23
CierraRam wrote: September 8th, 2025, 6:39 am
ocram23 wrote: September 7th, 2025, 10:42 pm such a great game. King Henry is still unreal. Couple of observations: Josh Allen is the best QB in the NFL.....
Lamar is athletic freak but until he can prove to me he can drop back and hit one of his WR's when it counts he will always a Top 2 guy. HIs coaches don't even trust him to throw the ball when the game is on the line. Not pinning the loss on him but it's the same old Lamar.
You made me laugh.. top 2 huh! No trust to throw with the game on line.. I would say that you're being very generous. That line is normally reserved for the Daniel Jones' of the NFL QB ilk.

All kidding aside, Lamar is the 2nd best QB in any situation. Jayden Daniels might be ascending to take that spot.. but right now no one else is close. Joe Burrow is becoming the new Matt Stafford IMO, and until a Sean McVay or a Ben Johnson comes to the rescue, he may never realize just how good he really is.
I meant to say Tier 2 and yes I would take Allen, Burrow, Daniels over Lamar any day of the week. Like I said he is a great fantasy QB but that is all. He is not an accurate passer and never has been. If it wasn't for the unreal catch by Hopkins they lose by even more. Tell me why they don't trust him to throw the ball? When the game was on the line they ran twice and threw once and went 3 and out. Oh yeah and I forgot Mahomes too. Again not blaming him for the loss but it's the same old Lamar sorry

Re: Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 8th, 2025, 8:40 am
by CierraRam
ocram23 wrote: September 8th, 2025, 8:25 am
CierraRam wrote: September 8th, 2025, 6:39 am

You made me laugh.. top 2 huh! No trust to throw with the game on line.. I would say that you're being very generous. That line is normally reserved for the Daniel Jones' of the NFL QB ilk.

All kidding aside, Lamar is the 2nd best QB in any situation. Jayden Daniels might be ascending to take that spot.. but right now no one else is close. Joe Burrow is becoming the new Matt Stafford IMO, and until a Sean McVay or a Ben Johnson comes to the rescue, he may never realize just how good he really is.
I meant to say Tier 2 and yes I would take Allen, Burrow, Daniels over Lamar any day of the week. Like I said he is a great fantasy QB but that is all. He is not an accurate passer and never has been. If it wasn't for the unreal catch by Hopkins they lose by even more. Tell me why they don't trust him to throw the ball? When the game was on the line they ran twice and threw once and went 3 and out. Oh yeah and I forgot Mahomes too. Again not blaming him for the loss but it's the same old Lamar sorry
Yeah im not going to argue with your points because you're pretty accurate. Josh Allen, who was otherwise very similar to Lamar when he came into the league; worked extremely hard on his throwing mechanics and he became the best QB in the league IMO. Overtaking Mahomes, and now I think Mahomes is somewhat overrated as a pure QB. Lamar to me is more of a gimmick QB, and guess what? You can scheme against a gimmick QB.. Thus why he isn't the game winning drive QB if you need more than a FG. Good post.. seriously OC

Re: Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 8th, 2025, 9:08 am
by ocram23
CierraRam wrote: September 8th, 2025, 8:40 am
ocram23 wrote: September 8th, 2025, 8:25 am

I meant to say Tier 2 and yes I would take Allen, Burrow, Daniels over Lamar any day of the week. Like I said he is a great fantasy QB but that is all. He is not an accurate passer and never has been. If it wasn't for the unreal catch by Hopkins they lose by even more. Tell me why they don't trust him to throw the ball? When the game was on the line they ran twice and threw once and went 3 and out. Oh yeah and I forgot Mahomes too. Again not blaming him for the loss but it's the same old Lamar sorry
Yeah im not going to argue with your points because you're pretty accurate. Josh Allen, who was otherwise very similar to Lamar when he came into the league; worked extremely hard on his throwing mechanics and he became the best QB in the league IMO. Overtaking Mahomes, and now I think Mahomes is somewhat overrated as a pure QB. Lamar to me is more of a gimmick QB, and guess what? You can scheme against a gimmick QB.. Thus why he isn't the game winning drive QB if you need more than a FG. Good post.. seriously OC
don't you think it's a valid question on why they don't trust him to throw? I agree with you about Josh he worked a ton on his mechanics. I thought Mahomes was really good the other night and he has nobody to throw to either. Lamar is still a matchup nightmare due to his athletic ability but he isn't accurate at all. Good talk Cierra....I think

Re: Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 8th, 2025, 11:33 am
by CierraRam
ocram23 wrote: September 8th, 2025, 9:08 am
CierraRam wrote: September 8th, 2025, 8:40 am

Yeah im not going to argue with your points because you're pretty accurate. Josh Allen, who was otherwise very similar to Lamar when he came into the league; worked extremely hard on his throwing mechanics and he became the best QB in the league IMO. Overtaking Mahomes, and now I think Mahomes is somewhat overrated as a pure QB. Lamar to me is more of a gimmick QB, and guess what? You can scheme against a gimmick QB.. Thus why he isn't the game winning drive QB if you need more than a FG. Good post.. seriously OC
don't you think it's a valid question on why they don't trust him to throw? I agree with you about Josh he worked a ton on his mechanics. I thought Mahomes was really good the other night and he has nobody to throw to either. Lamar is still a matchup nightmare due to his athletic ability but he isn't accurate at all. Good talk Cierra....I think
I think your point on not putting the game on his right arm has merit if they have to get 7. Because he is limited. A defense will scheme his running in that event. It's been demonstrated several times to your point.

Re: Bills win!!!!

Posted: September 8th, 2025, 11:56 am
by ocram23
CierraRam wrote: September 8th, 2025, 11:33 am
ocram23 wrote: September 8th, 2025, 9:08 am

don't you think it's a valid question on why they don't trust him to throw? I agree with you about Josh he worked a ton on his mechanics. I thought Mahomes was really good the other night and he has nobody to throw to either. Lamar is still a matchup nightmare due to his athletic ability but he isn't accurate at all. Good talk Cierra....I think
I think your point on not putting the game on his right arm has merit if they have to get 7. Because he is limited. A defense will scheme his running in that event. It's been demonstrated several times to your point.
after listening to Rex Ryan this morning I agree with his take. This Raven team isn't like the ones of old with great defenses so them not going for it to seal the game on 4th and 2 was the wrong decision. Punting it to Josh Allen was a huge mistake. anyway only one game and they will meet again in the playoffs