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Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 8:56 pm**

Jason_OTC
@Jason_OTC

Falcons pick up 2,010 points and the Rams pick up 2,873. Difference is around the 67th pick in the draft. A lot of upside for the Rams if the Falcons have a bad season.

Warren Sharp
@SharpFootball

Atlanta must REALLY love James Pearce Jr. because that is an INSANE amount of capital to give up

Jordan Schultz
@Schultz_Report

Reaction by one source to #Falcons trading a future 1st to come back in: “WTF?”

Eric Edholm
@Eric_Edholm

Man, Falcons better hit this pick. Whew, that's a big price for this draft.

Conor Orr
@ConorOrr

Allowing an embattled GM the ability to trade a 2026 first-round pick with a roster that hasn't had a winning season is organizational malpractice.

Jourdan Rodrigue
@JourdanRodrigue

Reporter: “You went seven years between first round picks and now you have two, what -“

Sean McVay: …”- For now.”

Cameron DaSilva
@camdasilva
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Sean McVay says the Rams' trade down went "better than we anticipated."

Came into the night expecting to possibly trade down

Cameron DaSilva
@camdasilva

Les Snead just confirmed the Rams tried to trade up but teams were "asking too much"

Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 9:32 pm**

Would you trade the 26th pick for the Falcons first next year straight up? Yes. You would. Next year’s draft is much better QB wise. Falcons pick unless they have a great year next year will be better than 26.

Rams on top of that exchanged their “third round pick” for a middle of the second pick at 46 plus a 7th. Of course it wasn’t a third round pick. It was a comp pick between the 3rd and 4th rounds.

Teams typically don’t make lopsided trades like that.

Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 10:24 pm**

Losers

Falcons front office. The Jaguars made the most shocking trade of the day in a good way. On the other end of the spectrum, the Falcons made the most shocking trade of the day in a bad way. After taking Jalon Walker at 15th overall, the Falcons wanted to trade back into the first round, so they made a deal with the Rams that involved sending a 2026 FIRST ROUND PICK to Los Angeles. That's right, they gave up a first-round pick to trade into the BACK of the first round.

To be fair, this is exactly what you would expect from a team that drafted a QB in the first round last year after paying another QB $100 million just one month earlier. The Falcons ended up using their first-round pick from the Rams on James Pearce and he's going to have a lot of pressure on him to be successful.

Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 11:04 pm**

26. Atlanta Falcons (via trade w/ Los Angeles Rams): Edge James Pearce Jr. (Tennessee)

Grade: D

Trading a first round pick for James Pearce is patently absurd. Why not pick him at 15 if this was the case? Pearce is a quality pass rusher but giving up this much for him — a second and seventh this year and next year's first in exchange for Pick No 26 and a third-rounder this year — just makes absolutely no sense.

Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 11:18 pm**

I just checked to see what the Texans got for pick 25, one slot before us. The Giants gave up a 2nd and 3rd this year and a 3rd in 2026.

Would anybody be happier with that? Honestly it's pretty close. This year we would have had a 2nd and three 3rds. Next year we would have had a 1st, 2nd, two 3rds.

I still like the extra 1st rounder because it's obviously about a franchise QB. It would be hilarious if Atlanta trades Cousins and Penix blows.

Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 11:23 pm**

I have to take my hat off to McSnead… this was a smart move in every sense and I’m pretty sure he is not done there.

Lots of us predicted a trade back but man he got value there and sets up a bunch of possibilities for next year.

If Shedeur is still on the board when Rams pick, don’t be surprised if there is another move.

Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 11:27 pm**

49RH8R wrote: ↑April 24th, 2025, 11:18 pm I just checked to see what the Texans got for pick 25, one slot before us. The Giants gave up a 2nd and 3rd this year and a 3rd in 2026.

Would anybody be happier with that? Honestly it's pretty close. This year we would have had a 2nd and three 3rds. Next year we would have had a 1st, 2nd, two 3rds.

I still like the extra 1st rounder because it's obviously about a franchise QB. It would be hilarious if Atlanta trades Cousins and Penix blows.

“ because it's obviously about a franchise QB.”

This^ out weighs everything else said. They know they have to take a serious shot soon to replace Stafford and keep this team moving forward with the talented young group already on roster. And next year is a potentially highly rated QB draft class.

This was a big positive move tonight for this team for the next 10 years starting in 26 IMO.

Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 11:28 pm**

DVA_ram33 wrote: ↑April 24th, 2025, 11:23 pm I have to take my hat off to McSnead… this was a smart move in every sense and I’m pretty sure he is not done there.

Lots of us predicted a trade back but man he got value there and sets up a bunch of possibilities for next year.

If Shedeur is still on the board when Rams pick, don’t be surprised if there is another move.

“
If Shedeur is still on the board when Rams pick, don’t be surprised if there is another move.”

Agree.

Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 11:32 pm**

Would this trade have happened had Dart still been available?

Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 11:55 pm**

DVA_ram33 wrote: ↑April 24th, 2025, 11:23 pm I have to take my hat off to McSnead… this was a smart move in every sense and I’m pretty sure he is not done there.

Lots of us predicted a trade back but man he got value there and sets up a bunch of possibilities for next year.

If Shedeur is still on the board when Rams pick, don’t be surprised if there is another move.

Anything is possible but QB needy teams like CLE, LV, NO, NYJ all pick before us and have another shot at Sanders. Browns have 2 picks so I'm guessing they take him for sure.

Posted: **April 24th, 2025, 11:56 pm**

bigklein wrote: ↑April 24th, 2025, 11:32 pm Would this trade have happened had Dart still been available?

Yeah, with the Giants. We wouldn't have gotten a 1st though.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 5:36 am**

My initial thoughts were wow- we would have taken Dart- so the Giants moved on Texas. But in hindsight, it was prob just the fact that Atlanta was willing to give a 1st for a non QB( pretty crazy). I like what we have next year. Shame that Connerly and Simmons are both gone, but we shall see tonight. Still the CB from Michigan and ND left. Not sure they will get to us.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 5:46 am**

well, fellas, I guess you have to see how Pearce Junior performs. Remember, wasn't that the mantra about Fiske? Then when Fisk had a good season, we all talked about how it was a small price to pay. I mean what if Pearce performs the way Verse performed last year. Also, We still have to make the pick, We are able to parlay our two pics into a franchise QB wow, then this was the deal of the decade.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 5:47 am**

RAMFAN71 wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 5:36 am My initial thoughts were wow- we would have taken Dart- so the Giants moved on Texas. But in hindsight, it was prob just the fact that Atlanta was willing to give a 1st for a non QB( pretty crazy). I like what we have next year. Shame that Connerly and Simmons are both gone, but we shall see tonight. Still the CB from Michigan and ND left. Not sure they will get to us.

Agree on the CBs. I think there may be a run on them in rd 2. I'm may be the minority, but I don't think there is as big of a need at TE as has been discussed here. Higbee looked as good as ever back from his injury.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 6:30 am**

First of all, these bozo's grading these drafts are not always right. They miss more than they hit. I don't think you can grade the trade accurately for 2-3 years minimum. Go back and look at trade/draft rankings from 3 years ago. Most of them were wrong...good and bad. My point is everyone is guessing at this point.

Now as for my guess/gut feeling, I was not a huge fan of the trade. Next years first is only equal to this year second round pick. Some of that will depend on where the Falcons end the season. Falcons have a decent team (beat Philly), and they play in an easy division. They play 10 teams this year that were under .500 last year. Best case scenario is they pick #15 next year...average case they land around #22-26. IMO, Falcons got instantly better last night and filled a huge issue with their two picks. Their biggest hole was no QB pressures and they filled it.

I thought there were several good Top 15 players left that we passed on. Specifically, Sparks and Campbell who went right after our pick. I think the drop off from those players to our pick in the 2nd round is pretty huge. I know we usually draft well in the later rounds.

Being a fan/follower of BOTH teams, I actually have to lean toward the Falcons in this trade. It was a little bit of reach, but they needed to fill a big hole. Edge rushers really drop off after the first round. I guess I was just hoping the Rams would grab a difference maker in their spot. We have a good team, and I am not sure our additional 4th rounder and 7th rounder can even make our team.

Yes, Rams leadership knows much more about football than I do. I trust them. Just a little disappointed. We need a SB win this year. Let's see how Starks/Campbell will do compared to who we pick up in the 2nd round.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 6:36 am**

49RH8R wrote: ↑April 24th, 2025, 11:18 pm I just checked to see what the Texans got for pick 25, one slot before us. The Giants gave up a 2nd and 3rd this year and a 3rd in 2026.

Would anybody be happier with that? Honestly it's pretty close. This year we would have had a 2nd and three 3rds. Next year we would have had a 1st, 2nd, two 3rds.

I still like the extra 1st rounder because it's obviously about a franchise QB. It would be hilarious if Atlanta trades Cousins and Penix blows.

Yes, I would have preferred to have a 2, and extra 3rd (for a total of 3) totaling 4 pick in 2-3 this year, plus a 3 next near. Now we currently have two picks in 2-3 this year rather than 4 (plus the one next year and 7).

As usual , we will run the 6th round.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 6:39 am**

I absolutely loved this trade. Rams following the Eagles in taking advantage of ineptly run franchises. We saw what Atlanta did last year by drafting Penix Jr after paying Cousins a boatload of money. After Warren went to Indy, there were really no stand out prospects left anyway. Rams have set themselves up for their QB future after Stafford retires; but what I am really stoked about is that maybe with this move, McVay stays with them for a long time if next year he gets his young QB that he wants to groom.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 6:42 am**

Bulldawg wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 6:30 am First of all, these bozo's grading these drafts are not always right. They miss more than they hit. I don't think you can grade the trade accurately for 2-3 years minimum. Go back and look at trade/draft rankings from 3 years ago. Most of them were wrong...good and bad. My point is everyone is guessing at this point.

Now as for my guess/gut feeling, I was not a huge fan of the trade. Next years first is only equal to this year second round pick. Some of that will depend on where the Falcons end the season. Falcons have a decent team (beat Philly), and they play in an easy division. They play 10 teams this year that were under .500 last year. Best case scenario is they pick #15 next year...average case they land around #22-26. IMO, Falcons got instantly better last night and filled a huge issue with their two picks. Their biggest hole was no QB pressures and they filled it.

I thought there were several good Top 15 players left that we passed on. Specifically, Sparks and Campbell who went right after our pick. I think the drop off from those players to our pick in the 2nd round is pretty huge. I know we usually draft well in the later rounds.

Being a fan/follower of BOTH teams, I actually have to lean toward the Falcons in this trade. It was a little bit of reach, but they needed to fill a big hole. Edge rushers really drop off after the first round. I guess I was just hoping the Rams would grab a difference maker in their spot. We have a good team, and I am not sure our additional 4th rounder and 7th rounder can even make our team.

Yes, Rams leadership knows much more about football than I do. I trust them. Just a little disappointed. We need a SB win this year. Let's see how Starks/Campbell will do compared to who we pick up in the 2nd round.

I have the same feelings as a lot of what you said. What disappointed me was giving up the third round pick.

As for next years first round. I could see both picks being in the 18 - 32 range. For that reason, I would still be happy with McCord in the 4th if he's still available. There is still going to be 3-5 bad teams in need of a QB next year. To have QB already taken care of, and still have 2 firsts would be huge.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 6:53 am**

Ramsfan08ny wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 6:42 am
Bulldawg wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 6:30 am First of all, these bozo's grading these drafts are not always right. They miss more than they hit. I don't think you can grade the trade accurately for 2-3 years minimum. Go back and look at trade/draft rankings from 3 years ago. Most of them were wrong...good and bad. My point is everyone is guessing at this point.

Now as for my guess/gut feeling, I was not a huge fan of the trade. Next years first is only equal to this year second round pick. Some of that will depend on where the Falcons end the season. Falcons have a decent team (beat Philly), and they play in an easy division. They play 10 teams this year that were under .500 last year. Best case scenario is they pick #15 next year...average case they land around #22-26. IMO, Falcons got instantly better last night and filled a huge issue with their two picks. Their biggest hole was no QB pressures and they filled it.

I thought there were several good Top 15 players left that we passed on. Specifically, Sparks and Campbell who went right after our pick. I think the drop off from those players to our pick in the 2nd round is pretty huge. I know we usually draft well in the later rounds.

Being a fan/follower of BOTH teams, I actually have to lean toward the Falcons in this trade. It was a little bit of reach, but they needed to fill a big hole. Edge rushers really drop off after the first round. I guess I was just hoping the Rams would grab a difference maker in their spot. We have a good team, and I am not sure our additional 4th rounder and 7th rounder can even make our team.

Yes, Rams leadership knows much more about football than I do. I trust them. Just a little disappointed. We need a SB win this year. Let's see how Starks/Campbell will do compared to who we pick up in the 2nd round.
I have the same feelings as a lot of what you said. What disappointed me was giving up the third round pick.

As for next years first round. I could see both picks being in the 18 - 32 range. For that reason, I would still be happy with McCord in the 4th if he's still available. There is still going to be 3-5 bad teams in need of a QB next year. To have QB already taken care of, and still have 2 firsts would be huge.

I think if we needed a QB we would have kept the pick and taken Shough or Sanders. (Please NO Sanders.) It will be interesting to see who we take. We can trade our two 1s next year to move up a little. I was just hoping for a playmaker this year...and not happy to cheer for Falcons to lose.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 7:18 am**

We will all be pretty stoked this time next year. But who is left now? I like some of the CB left....The TE from Miami or Ersery would be nice at OT.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 7:57 am**

RAMFAN71 wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 7:18 am We will all be pretty stoked this time next year. But who is left now? I like some of the CB left....The TE from Miami or Ersery would be nice at OT.

There is depth in this draft at the positions some are so concerned about. It isn’t an either we drafted Campbell or Starks or it is a bust draft. ILB, TE, n DL will be there the next 2 days.

You don’t pass on a first round pick from an inept franchise that late in the first round. We do remember who the falcons HC is and how much he was just “admired” in here.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 8:05 am**

Bulldawg wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 6:30 am First of all, these bozo's grading these drafts are not always right. They miss more than they hit. I don't think you can grade the trade accurately for 2-3 years minimum. Go back and look at trade/draft rankings from 3 years ago. Most of them were wrong...good and bad. My point is everyone is guessing at this point.

Now as for my guess/gut feeling, I was not a huge fan of the trade. Next years first is only equal to this year second round pick. Some of that will depend on where the Falcons end the season. Falcons have a decent team (beat Philly), and they play in an easy division. They play 10 teams this year that were under .500 last year. Best case scenario is they pick #15 next year...average case they land around #22-26. IMO, Falcons got instantly better last night and filled a huge issue with their two picks. Their biggest hole was no QB pressures and they filled it.

I thought there were several good Top 15 players left that we passed on. Specifically, Sparks and Campbell who went right after our pick. I think the drop off from those players to our pick in the 2nd round is pretty huge. I know we usually draft well in the later rounds.

Being a fan/follower of BOTH teams, I actually have to lean toward the Falcons in this trade. It was a little bit of reach, but they needed to fill a big hole. Edge rushers really drop off after the first round. I guess I was just hoping the Rams would grab a difference maker in their spot. We have a good team, and I am not sure our additional 4th rounder and 7th rounder can even make our team.

Yes, Rams leadership knows much more about football than I do. I trust them. Just a little disappointed. We need a SB win this year. Let's see how Starks/Campbell will do compared to who we pick up in the 2nd round.

And these fans giving opinion on the trade could be called the same as those grading the picks……..

Everyone is guessing right now. Everyone. But find me more than a person or two who doesn’t think the trade was damn good by the Rams? Hell even the niners fans n beat writers think it was a hell of a trade for the Rams. Include Seahawks also.

Some of you act like this was a 5-12 team last year. It quite possibly will be soon if they don’t address the QB position after Stafford.And just me if the trade was about that then I’d rather do it in next years draft then this years.

We have for weeks in here said what’s next after Stafford, they quite possibly address it last night, but we would rather have a LB or a safety………….

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 8:12 am**

You cannot NOT love that move. We have 2 1st next year!! for a #26?!?

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 8:13 am**

NorCal RF wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 8:05 am
Bulldawg wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 6:30 am First of all, these bozo's grading these drafts are not always right. They miss more than they hit. I don't think you can grade the trade accurately for 2-3 years minimum. Go back and look at trade/draft rankings from 3 years ago. Most of them were wrong...good and bad. My point is everyone is guessing at this point.

Now as for my guess/gut feeling, I was not a huge fan of the trade. Next years first is only equal to this year second round pick. Some of that will depend on where the Falcons end the season. Falcons have a decent team (beat Philly), and they play in an easy division. They play 10 teams this year that were under .500 last year. Best case scenario is they pick #15 next year...average case they land around #22-26. IMO, Falcons got instantly better last night and filled a huge issue with their two picks. Their biggest hole was no QB pressures and they filled it.

I thought there were several good Top 15 players left that we passed on. Specifically, Sparks and Campbell who went right after our pick. I think the drop off from those players to our pick in the 2nd round is pretty huge. I know we usually draft well in the later rounds.

Being a fan/follower of BOTH teams, I actually have to lean toward the Falcons in this trade. It was a little bit of reach, but they needed to fill a big hole. Edge rushers really drop off after the first round. I guess I was just hoping the Rams would grab a difference maker in their spot. We have a good team, and I am not sure our additional 4th rounder and 7th rounder can even make our team.

Yes, Rams leadership knows much more about football than I do. I trust them. Just a little disappointed. We need a SB win this year. Let's see how Starks/Campbell will do compared to who we pick up in the 2nd round.
And these fans giving opinion on the trade could be called the same as those grading the picks……..

Everyone is guessing right now. Everyone. But find me more than a person or two who doesn’t think the trade was damn good by the Rams? He’ll even the niners fans n best writers fell it was a hell of a trade for the Rams. Include Seahawks also.

Some of you act like this was a 5-12 team last year. It quite possibly will be soon if they don’t address the QB position after Stafford.And just me if the trade was about that then I’d rather do it in next years draft then this years.

We have for weeks in here said what’s next after Stafford, they quite possibly address it last night, but we would rather have a LB or a safety………….

Oh, my opinion (and fan opinions) are probably much less accurate than the professionals. Completely admit it, but even the smartest ones bat around .500.

I guess my point was I think we are 1-2 players away from a SB run/win. I think it was more likely that we got that player at pick #26 vs #46. Clearly McVay/Snead don't believe the drop-off from 26-46 was that significant. I don't think people should get too excited over a "1st round" pick when it could easily be 24-28 pick. (Falcons have an easy division, especially with Saints issue at QB.)

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 8:18 am**

RAMFAN71 wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 8:12 am You cannot NOT love that move. We have 2 1st next year!! for a #26?!?

So Basically we gave away a #26, for NEXT YEAR's 26...not all that excited about it. It doesn't help us this year. It is a positive move, and I understand the excitement...I am just not jumping up and down.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 8:45 am**

Bulldawg wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 8:18 am
RAMFAN71 wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 8:12 am You cannot NOT love that move. We have 2 1st next year!! for a #26?!?
So Basically we gave away a #26, for NEXT YEAR's 26...not all that excited about it. It doesn't help us this year. It is a positive move, and I understand the excitement...I am just not jumping up and down.

That's not it. it's not a 1st for a 1st. It's 1st and 3rd for a 1st, 2nd, and 7th (I think). That 1 next year can be potentially a very good one. Let's hope the Falcons stink this year.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 8:55 am**

Bulldawg wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 8:13 am
NorCal RF wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 8:05 am

And these fans giving opinion on the trade could be called the same as those grading the picks……..

Everyone is guessing right now. Everyone. But find me more than a person or two who doesn’t think the trade was damn good by the Rams? He’ll even the niners fans n best writers fell it was a hell of a trade for the Rams. Include Seahawks also.

Some of you act like this was a 5-12 team last year. It quite possibly will be soon if they don’t address the QB position after Stafford.And just me if the trade was about that then I’d rather do it in next years draft then this years.

We have for weeks in here said what’s next after Stafford, they quite possibly address it last night, but we would rather have a LB or a safety………….
Oh, my opinion (and fan opinions) are probably much less accurate than the professionals. Completely admit it, but even the smartest ones bat around .500.

I guess my point was I think we are 1-2 players away from a SB run/win. I think it was more likely that we got that player at pick #26 vs #46. Clearly McVay/Snead don't believe the drop-off from 26-46 was that significant. I don't think people should get too excited over a "1st round" pick when it could easily be 24-28 pick. (Falcons have an easy division, especially with Saints issue at QB.)

Understood. I think we can still finish this roster for this year in the next 2 days. While quite possibly really being on solid ground from 26 and on with this trade yesterday.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 8:57 am**

Bulldawg wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 8:18 am
RAMFAN71 wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 8:12 am You cannot NOT love that move. We have 2 1st next year!! for a #26?!?
So Basically we gave away a #26, for NEXT YEAR's 26...not all that excited about it. It doesn't help us this year. It is a positive move, and I understand the excitement...I am just not jumping up and down.

Do you honestly feel the Falcons first round pick next year will be as low as 26?

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 9:00 am**

NorCal RF wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 8:57 am
Bulldawg wrote: ↑April 25th, 2025, 8:18 am
So Basically we gave away a #26, for NEXT YEAR's 26...not all that excited about it. It doesn't help us this year. It is a positive move, and I understand the excitement...I am just not jumping up and down.
Do you honestly feel the Falcons first round pick next year will be as low as 26?

we will have a top 15 pick next year IMO. I do understand people's opinion on this doesn't help for 2025. After listening to post draft interview with McSnead I get it.

Posted: **April 25th, 2025, 9:04 am**

And don't forget that we can use that extra 1 to move up as well...or back....It will be a big deal next year. Less so if Rams Falcons are in the NFC Championship this year.

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