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No where near as explosive. At least if he was explosive, I could live with some of these fumbles but he isn't.brasilrams wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:40 pmThey all fumble, but at different rates. KW has 10 fumbles and Gibbs has 3. That’s more than three times as many.
But 3 times as many fumbles despite not having 3 times the amount of carriesRampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:45 pm To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...
Yup. Not as fast , not as explosive , not the same vision , not the same moves . Just can't compare a kia to a ferrari .Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:44 pmNo where near as explosive. At least if he was explosive, I could live with some of these fumbles but he isn't.brasilrams wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:40 pm
They all fumble, but at different rates. KW has 10 fumbles and Gibbs has 3. That’s more than three times as many.
Exactly. KW has never given us a 78 yard TD run like we saw from Gibbs tonight. Run or Catch!Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:44 pmNo where near as explosive. At least if he was explosive, I could live with some of these fumbles but he isn't.brasilrams wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:40 pm
They all fumble, but at different rates. KW has 10 fumbles and Gibbs has 3. That’s more than three times as many.
KW would have got 20 yards on that play, tops. Might have fumbled tooRampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:47 pmExactly. KW has never given us a 78 yard TD run like we saw from Gibbs tonight. Run or Catch!
Williams does fumble too much but its overblown.Rampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:45 pm To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...
If you give gibbs another 167 carries he would maybe have ONE more fumble ( he is fumbling ONCE every 173 carries ) actually...not even one..... Even with 686 carries he would still have 3 fumbles ( close to 4 , but still 3 )Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:46 pmBut 3 times as many fumbles despite not having 3 times the amount of carriesRampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:45 pm To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...
All more explosive players than KWHellRam wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:48 pmWilliams does fumble too much but its overblown.Rampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:45 pm To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...
Hell, Faulk fumbled 8 times in one season once.
Henry has 23 career fumbles.
Most RBs fumble 2/3 times a year.
That's football.
Seriously this guy is a game changer. Man, outstanding RB.Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:22 pmIf the Rams had Gibbs...brasilrams wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:20 pm
I have always said that Gibbs is just insane. Him and Montgomery are by far the best RB duo in the league.
I would take Gibbs over Barkley, Taylor, and Henry.
Looking at Gibbs, you can really see how mediocre KW is. I wonder when the Rams will have real talent at the RB position. After having guys like Faulk, Dickerson, Steven Jackson, and Gurley… we settle for KW. Nice kid, but at the same time, so mediocre. I don’t even remember the last time he had a run longer than 15 yards.
Wow
Definitely be undefeated right now
LOL trueCornell29 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:48 pmKW would have got 20 yards on that play, tops. Might have fumbled tooRampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:47 pm
Exactly. KW has never given us a 78 yard TD run like we saw from Gibbs tonight. Run or Catch!
I wasn't arguing with you, only being fair. Maybe we get 1 or 2 more fumbles from Gibbs in the 1 less year. He's averaging 1 a year!Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:46 pmBut 3 times as many fumbles despite not having 3 times the amount of carriesRampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:45 pm To be fair KW has 167 more Carries than Gibb's 686 to 519... about 1 more season played...
Williams forte isn't explosiveness
We got it , the number of carries needs to be taken into consideration of course ...but like I said ...with 686 carries Gibbs would still have 3 fumbles or 4 at the most against KW's 10 . Like Cornell said , we could live with the fumbles if he was such a playmaker like Gybbs which he is not , obviously .Rampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:50 pmI wasn't arguing with you, only being fair. Maybe we get 1 or 2 more fumbles from Gibbs in the 1 less year. He's averaging 1 a year!
And Willams had 16 last year!Rampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:52 pmDidn't Marshall also score 15 TD's combined that year too tho?
You are the one comparing him to Faulk and Henry.
He is pretty good for a 4th round pick . I will agree here . Maybe it is time for the rams to have REAL talent at the rb position and draft one in the first round.
No I'm comparing fumble rates.
KW does deserve props. He was a good find in the 5th round. With that said he still fumbles too much and lack explosiveness. Do you disagree with that statement?HellRam wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:57 pmNo I'm comparing fumble rates.
Quit the strawman. I can do straw man too. Are you saying McVay doesn't know RBs since we résigner him?
And yes, I am a Kyren fan. Dude has been a solid C+/B- back for us.
Everything isn't black and white. You can give props to Williams and still acknowledge his faults and limitations.
Actually I looked it upHellRam wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:53 pmAnd Willams had 16 last year!Rampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:52 pm
Didn't Marshall also score 15 TD's combined that year too tho?
Yes! He's been a productive RB who is probably a top 10/12 ish RB. From a production standpoint he has been a top 8 RB in rush yards the last 3 seasons.Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 7:00 pmKW does deserve props. He was a good find in the 5th round. With that said he still fumbles too much and lack explosiveness. Do you disagree with that statement?HellRam wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 6:57 pm
No I'm comparing fumble rates.
Quit the strawman. I can do straw man too. Are you saying McVay doesn't know RBs since we résigner him?
And yes, I am a Kyren fan. Dude has been a solid C+/B- back for us.
Everything isn't black and white. You can give props to Williams and still acknowledge his faults and limitations.
Nobody is comparing the two.Rampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 7:03 pmActually I looked it up
Faulk had Over 1000 yards rushing and receiving yards the year he fumbled 8 times and scored 18 Rushing TDS and 8 Receiving TDS.
And then there's this... No KW near any of it.
Marshall Faulk! NFL records
Fastest player to gain 16,000 yards from scrimmage: 129 games
Fastest player to gain 17,000 yards from scrimmage: 142 games
Fastest player to gain 1,000 yards from scrimmage in a season: 6 (1083 yards in 2000, tied with Jim Brown)[34]
Most two point conversions, career: 7[35]
Most consecutive seasons with 2,000 yards from scrimmage: 4
Most consecutive seasons with 5+ rushing touchdowns: 10 (1994–2003, tied with LaDainian Tomlinson)
Most consecutive games with 4+ touchdowns: 2 (tied with Jim Taylor and LaDainian Tomlinson)
Most receiving yards by a running back in a season: 1,048
Most consecutive games with a reception by a running back (min. 5 carries per game): 158[36]
Most games with 200 yards from scrimmage: 14
Most games with 250 yards from scrimmage: 5
Most games with both a rushing and receiving touchdown, career: 15
Only player with 70+ rushing TDs and 30+ receiving TDs
Only player with 12,000 yards rushing and 6,000 yards receiving in a career
Only player to have 200 yards receiving and 50 yards rushing in the same game - December 26, 1999
Only player to have 200 yards receiving and 10 rushing attempts in the same game - December 26, 1999
Ok so we agree. He isnt explosive and he fumbles too much but he is a productive back and good find in the 5th roundHellRam wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 7:04 pmYes! He's been a productive RB who is probably a top 10/12 ish RB. From a production standpoint he has been a top 8 RB in rush yards the last 3 seasons.
The stats don't lie.
Obviously, he's not as explosive as a 1st round RB. But like I said, his game isn't based off explosiveness. And yes he fumbles too much.
Sounds like your issue is with McVay. Not me,I'm just stating facts. I'm not the one who signed him and made him starter lol.
Why would we not agree?Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 7:06 pmOk so we agree. He isnt explosive and he fumbles too much but he is a productive back and good find in the 5th roundHellRam wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 7:04 pm
Yes! He's been a productive RB who is probably a top 10/12 ish RB. From a production standpoint he has been a top 8 RB in rush yards the last 3 seasons.
The stats don't lie.
Obviously, he's not as explosive as a 1st round RB. But like I said, his game isn't based off explosiveness. And yes he fumbles too much.
Sounds like your issue is with McVay. Not me,I'm just stating facts. I'm not the one who signed him and made him starter lol.
Name ten better RBs...Rampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 7:09 pmYou did exactly that, you compared fumbles. And Sorry, KW is not a top 10 Back... He's sufficient for what Sean likes to do!
I don't need to, you made the claim first, you support your claim first. So far all we have is you said so.HellRam wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 7:10 pmName ten better RBs...Rampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 7:09 pm
You did exactly that, you compared fumbles. And Sorry, KW is not a top 10 Back... He's sufficient for what Sean likes to do!
The fuck are you talking about.....?Rampager66 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2025, 7:14 pmI don't need to, you made the claim first, you support your claim first. So far all we have is you said so.