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Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:32 am**

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DelMar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:28 am
ocram23 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:23 am

not sure how you think they are all in this year. they traded out to get next yr's 1 from ATL, like the trade no doubt. I don't think they got better this weekend. JMO obviously.

1. We did everything we could to keep Stafford. Yes, we had to play hard ball w him, but we got our guys. IMO, Staff may retire at end of this season or next
2. When management saw how close we were to making the SB this past season, they ALL had to see how close we are to being back in the dance. So, they made us better already. Upgraded WR spot, and other spots.
3. Everything we have done thus far, tells me the Rams believe this could be our year.

How do you not see this?

yes I realize the Staff resign is playing this yr, they really did not have a choice. I am torn with the lack of focus for them on the defensive side of the ball. we got lucky last year with injuries. IMO we are very thin on the back 7 so that is where I think they failed. I could be wrong but we shall see.
yes Adams signing is good let's hope he stays healthy.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:35 am**

ocram23 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:24 am
RamPower wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:21 am

You dont like Josaiah Stewart?
torn. I do like the depth but this team needs massive LB help and CB help. shocked they did not take a WR too

Fair of course (I really like the pick btw). I think them adding to the D-line really helps those 2nd & 3rd levels as well of course. I want the best D-line on the planet.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:36 am**

RamPower wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:35 am
ocram23 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:24 am

torn. I do like the depth but this team needs massive LB help and CB help. shocked they did not take a WR too
Fair of course (I really like the pick btw). I think them adding to the D-line really helps those 2nd & 3rd levels as well of course. I want the best D-line on the planet.

me too

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:38 am**

Why are we trading up for a DT don't we have enough DTs?

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:40 am**

malibu wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:38 am Why are we trading up for a DT don't we have enough DTs?

think they are using the Philly blue print

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:41 am**

malibu wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:38 am Why are we trading up for a DT don't we have enough DTs?

Can never have too many pass rushers. Pretty good pick to be honest.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:42 am**

malibu wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:38 am Why are we trading up for a DT don't we have enough DTs?

I guess they want to pressure relentlessly with having the D-line fresh on every down

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:45 am**

RamPower wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:42 am
malibu wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:38 am Why are we trading up for a DT don't we have enough DTs?
I guess they want to pressure relentlessly with having the D-line fresh on every down

Similar to the eagles last year.

There were times last year, when the rams DL tired out. For example week 1 vs the Lions in OT.

Teams like the Eagles have great depth on the DL. They can just keeping plugging in fresh bodies.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:47 am**

I really don’t like this draft at all other than the trade with Atlanta to get a 1st next year.

3rd Tight End in the 2nd round…
Extremely short D End
3rd RB

What are we doing? You are taking depth pieces when you need to find starters. The RB I can assume is going to be used when Kyren leaves. Don’t see them giving Kyren an extension. And TE I guess can be a replacement for Higbee.

But you really aren’t making your team better when you have holes in the starting unit, but instead use the draft to add backups to starters you feel ok about.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:47 am**

Cornell29 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:45 am
RamPower wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:42 am

I guess they want to pressure relentlessly with having the D-line fresh on every down
Similar to the eagles last year.

There were times last year, when the rams DL tired out. For example week 1 vs the Lions in OT.

Teams like the Eagles have great depth on the DL. They can just keeping plugging in fresh bodies.

exactly this is the blue print for the Eagles

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:49 am**

Cornell29 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:45 am
RamPower wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:42 am

I guess they want to pressure relentlessly with having the D-line fresh on every down
Similar to the eagles last year.

There were times last year, when the rams DL tired out. For example week 1 vs the Lions in OT.

Teams like the Eagles have great depth on the DL. They can just keeping plugging in fresh bodies.

Exactly. Had to replace Hoecht, and gain great depth in the middle. They've done just that in FA and draft.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:50 am**

RamPower wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:49 am
Cornell29 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:45 am
Similar to the eagles last year.

There were times last year, when the rams DL tired out. For example week 1 vs the Lions in OT.

Teams like the Eagles have great depth on the DL. They can just keeping plugging in fresh bodies.
Exactly. Had to replace Hoecht, and gain great depth in the middle. They've done just that in FA and draft.

back 7 is weak if you ask me

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:51 am**

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:55 am**

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:55 am**

ocram23 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:50 am
RamPower wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:49 am

Exactly. Had to replace Hoecht, and gain great depth in the middle. They've done just that in FA and draft.
back 7 is weak if you ask me

Young tho

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 11:56 am**

RamPower wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:55 am
ocram23 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 11:50 am

back 7 is weak if you ask me
Young tho

LB group is horrible. seriously how do they not address this?

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:01 pm**

This draft feels like a very arrogant draft by the Rams. Arrogant in that they must believe both starters on each side of the ball are great.

I could see taking WR for depth. Look how many guys we lose next year.

I could see taking LB’er. Speights/Reeder aren’t Pro Bowlers. Were there really no LB’ers better than them in the draft? Taking the Michigan D End over Jack Sawyer if you were looking for Edges I don’t agree with. Likewise taking a TE over Will Johnson.

And OT? I mean Havenstein is always hurt and needs replaced soon. Look how many times we had to use backup OTs last year.

Not only did we pick depth pieces, we picked depth pieces at less valuable positions like TE/RB instead of OT/WR.

Just a baffling draft. Probably the least excited I’ve been about the draft since Tutu. Rams are going to need to hit a grand slam next year given all the guys at mega value positions next year (QB/OT/CB) that will need added

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:02 pm**

Trade Kyren now! The writing is on the wall that he is being replaced. Maybe we get a 7th for him?

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:04 pm**

Truth wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 12:01 pm This draft feels like a very arrogant draft by the Rams. Arrogant in that they must believe both starters on each side of the ball are great.

I could see taking WR for depth. Look how many guys we lose next year.

I could see taking LB’er. Speights/Reeder aren’t Pro Bowlers. Were there really no LB’ers better than them in the draft? Taking the Michigan D End over Jack Sawyer if you were looking for Edges I don’t agree with. Likewise taking a TE over Will Johnson.

And OT? I mean Havenstein is always hurt and needs replaced soon. Look how many times we had to use backup OTs last year.

Not only did we pick depth pieces, we picked depth pieces at less valuable positions like TE/RB instead of OT/WR.

Just a baffling draft. Probably the least excited I’ve been about the draft since Tutu. Rams are going to need to hit a grand slam next year given all the guys at mega value positions next year (QB/OT/CB) that will need added

quite obvious to me they don't value the LB position. to not draft one is mind boggling considering the group we have on the roster.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:05 pm**

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:09 pm**

Jordan is a tool for McVay and Snead to spread their lies/false rhetoric.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:13 pm**

Totally agree - my term would be arrogance- O toys for McVay is a given BUT to display you do not respect certain positions is arrogant. Our ILB are poor - you take a very short Edge rusher instead ( not the Philly way) and our OT depth is scary bad . The whole O grinds down with no 3 rd OT.A TE selection when the TE is rarely utilized is just bizarre. IMO this draft group almost appears as if was a throw away effort & I do not see where the 2025 Rams are improved.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:20 pm**

RonMac wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 12:13 pm Totally agree - my term would be arrogance- O toys for McVay is a given BUT to display you do not respect certain positions is arrogant. Our ILB are poor - you take a very short Edge rusher instead ( not the Philly way) and our OT depth is scary bad . The whole O grinds down with no 3 rd OT.A TE selection when the TE is rarely utilized is just bizarre. IMO this draft group almost appears as if was a throw away effort & I do not see where the 2025 Rams are improved.

Eagles drafted Nolan Smith Edge in the 1st a few years back and he is 6-2 238. Pretty much the same size as Stewart.

The Edge that just retired from. The eagles Brandon Graham is 6-2. Brandon been one of the best pass rushers the eagles have had over his long eagles career.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:23 pm**

Cornell29 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 12:05 pm

Maybe it's the meathead in me, but I always look at bench reps. Ever sine AD. He had 35 or so? I really wanted Limmer last year....he had 42 reps in think! Insane. So this guy with 35...love it. Bull rush, shed blocks. You need to be strong. I like that data point. Will see if he can do damage.

Now please.....grab a big OT nobody knows about!

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:24 pm**

RAMFAN71 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 12:23 pm
Cornell29 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 12:05 pm
Maybe it's the meathead in me, but I always look at bench reps. Ever sine AD. He had 35 or so? I really wanted Limmer last year....he had 42 reps in think! Insane. So this guy with 35...love it. Bull rush, shed blocks. You need to be strong. I like that data point. Will see if he can do damage.

Now please.....grab a big OT nobody knows about!

Alaric Jackson (who was a OT that nobody knew about) part 2 incoming.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:27 pm**

Ramsfan08ny wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 10:58 am So, for weeks leading up to the draft, the concensus here was that the Rams need to follow their board. Apparently doing just that. Do we trust them or not?

We almost wanted a LB or CB who could improve the defense. What do you do if you look at the players available, and say, "this guy isn't as good as the guy we've got now"? Do you draft him, just because fans want a LB? Or CB?

Drafting the position of need doesn't make you better, unless the player is better.

I agree that they can't commit top RB money to KW. This might be the reason for this pick.

In all honesty, I think the trade of #26 threw a wrench in everything. Lost 20 slots in that move, and lost a 3rd rounder. If you like that trade, you gotta bite the bullet and reap the rewards next year, but it obviously greatly impacted this year's quality of picks.

Well said. I didn't like the trade but it happened. Next year will be much more interesting. I am happy with who they have drafted. I personally would have done it a little different, but they know more than me and I trust them.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 12:31 pm**

Rams fan since 1973 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 12:02 pm Trade Kyren now! The writing is on the wall that he is being replaced. Maybe we get a 7th for him?

Why the heck would we trade him now for a 7th rounder? I don't understand that logic. We are going to ride this horse at least 1 more year. Can you please explain this logic?

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 1:19 pm**

I wish upland could post what was said immediately after the playoff lost to Philly in here………

Many were saying we need a take it to the house RB and we need to improve the TE position. They did exactly that within their first 3 picks. After getting what they did from Atlanta in day one. And some are still not happy. Trading pick 26 changed this draft but they still got touted players in day 2 n 3. Now we wait.

And Chris Paul JR was a solid pick also. Very high % rate in made tackles. What we have been screaming for. Sure others before him were higher rated but Paul is a good football player in regards to his college career.

OL? I said I thought they may be happy as is. CB same.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 1:27 pm**

NorCal RF wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 1:19 pm I wish upland could post what was said immediately after the playoff lost to Philly in here………

Many were saying we need a take it to the house RB and we need to improve the TE position. They did exactly that within their first 3 picks. After getting what they did from Atlanta in day one. And some are still not happy. Trading pick 26 changed this draft but they still got touted players in day 2 n 3. Now we wait.

And Chris Paul JR was a solid pick also. Very high % rate in made tackles. What we have been screaming for. Sure others before him were higher rated but Paul is a good football player in regards to his college career.

OL? I said I thought they may be happy as is. CB same.

love the loyalty NC but you never criticize anything the Rams do. here are my takes from the draft
1. to get excited about a 5th round pick, Paul, is delusional.....I know you love that word. reason he lasted that long IMO. I am not saying he isn't good but let's keep it real
2. Hunter.....they must have loved him a lot to make that trade. IMO RB was not a huge need. KW is a freakin stud and they haven't even given Corum a chance yet so now that puts Corum on the bench more.
3. Ferguson...like the pick...now let's hope they actually throw to a TE
4. This team needs a ton of help at the LB position and IMO they barely addressed it. Why?
5. I like the ATL trade but I can't lie I am bummed because we could have had Starks or Hairston.
6. OL....you and I are going to agree to disagree. Injuries then what???

again in McSnead we trust but I still have no issues making observations on their picks.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 1:30 pm**

Bulldawg wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 10:41 am
malibu wrote: ↑April 26th, 2025, 10:35 am
3rd to 4th on the depth chart is NOT improving the skill positions period he will not get any carries compared to Kyren or Corum so how is that improving anything especially if he sits on the bench?

We added Ferguson I don't agree with the pick but Les and scouts know more so I will assume that was an upgrade at the skill positions. We don't need any QB, nor WR we have 2 starter quality RBs and TEs now so what else needs to be upgraded?

Last I checked we lost the Philly championship game on super pourous defense with long breakaway runs culminating in TDs. Maybe that is what we need to concentrate on ya think?! Offense was bad at the first half of the season due to injuries this season barring injuries and adding Devante. Ferguson we will be better. We need defense upgrades and we only got a backup OLB which we needed and Ford a great pickup at DT/NT.
Williams seems to get hurt a few games a year, and Corum hasn't done much. He may have been drafted to replace Corum. Only time will tell. We didn’t have anyone behind Corum.

Evidently the Rams are not as worried about the CB position as us.

Or maybe, just maybe, they have a plan there. Trade coming.

Posted: **April 26th, 2025, 1:35 pm**

Corum was not given much of a chance to play last year so not sure how people are saying he didn't do much. Let it be said I didn't like the pick when it happened and guess what as of today I was right. If they loved him they would not have drafted Hunter

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