Colin on Goff - Stafford

[HellRam]

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I feel like your just throwing stuff out there without doing your homework.

The Lions were actually a solid team during the Caldwell era who was a solid coach who has a career winning record with both the Colts and Lions. For example in 2014 the Lions had the 3rd best scoring defense and Megatron and Golden Tate were the recievers. That's a pretty good team. Unfortunately, in the wildcard round that year Stafford had 3 turnovers and they lost to the Cowboys.

The Lions royally screwed up when they moved on from Caldwell and then became a dumpster fire leading to Stafford wanting to be traded.


As for the Lions scoring 40 points because of their RBs. How do you explain them having a top 5 offense before Gibbs and Montgomery were even on the team? Nobody thought much of Montgomery until he was paired with Goff. And the stats prove it. Since 2022 only one QB has thrown for more yards than Goff and that his Mahomes. RBs are nice but they don't truly generate offense or points otherwise the Colts or Giants with Barkley and Taylor wouldn't have been trash teams. It's a QB driven leage and the RB plays a complimentary role. That's why the Lions were still a top 5 offense with Jamal Williams and Swift.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-p ... since-2022

Goff also leads the NFL with most TDs thrown since 2022 as well.

How many seasons during Stafford’s era did the Lions actually have a decent coaching staff, a decent defense, and a decent run game? Two or three seasons out of the eleven he played there ? … come on, man.

No one's arguing that. I literally said the dumpster that Detroit was is why he wanted to leave.

But I see you ignored everything else I posted.

[brasilrams]

How many seasons during Stafford’s era did the Lions actually have a decent coaching staff, a decent defense, and a decent run game? Two or three seasons out of the eleven he played there ? … come on, man.

No one's arguing that. I literally said the dumpster that Detroit was is why he wanted to leave.

But I see you ignored everything else I posted.

So, you’re actually agreeing with me that when Stafford was there, for the majority of the time, he had little to no support, right? So when I said that needed to be taken into consideration, why did you try to spin it like Stafford actually had support? I don’t get it.

I didn’t comment on the rest because it’s pointless. Montgomery doesn’t need Goff to do his thing — he needs a good O-line. The fact that he suddenly started running wild has nothing to do with Goff.

And about the “most TDs since 2022,” I really don’t care when his playoff stats look like crap.( or at least they look like crap when compared to Stafford's stats )

[HellRam]

No one's arguing that. I literally said the dumpster that Detroit was is why he wanted to leave.

But I see you ignored everything else I posted.

So, you’re actually agreeing with me that when Stafford was there, for the majority of the time, he had little to no support, right? So when I said that needed to be taken into consideration, why did you try to spin it like Stafford actually had support? I don’t get it.

I didn’t comment on the rest because it’s pointless. Montgomery doesn’t need Goff to do his thing — he needs a good O-line. The fact that he suddenly started running wild has nothing to do with Goff.

And about the “most TDs since 2022,” I really don’t care when his playoff stats look like crap.( or at least they look like crap when compared to Stafford's stats )

I'm not agreeing with anything. Everyone already knows Detroit for most years has been a poorly ran organization. But that doesn't negate the fact they've had good years mixed in like the Caldwell era and now currently the Campbell era which has been better.


And of course you don't care. You just fabricate whatever you want because you dont like admitting your wrong.

[brasilrams]

So, you’re actually agreeing with me that when Stafford was there, for the majority of the time, he had little to no support, right? So when I said that needed to be taken into consideration, why did you try to spin it like Stafford actually had support? I don’t get it.

I didn’t comment on the rest because it’s pointless. Montgomery doesn’t need Goff to do his thing — he needs a good O-line. The fact that he suddenly started running wild has nothing to do with Goff.

And about the “most TDs since 2022,” I really don’t care when his playoff stats look like crap.( or at least they look like crap when compared to Stafford's stats )

I'm not agreeing with anything. Everyone already knows Detroit for most years has been a poorly ran organization. But that doesn't negate the fact they've had good years mixed in like the Caldwell era and now currently the Campbell era which has been better.


And of course you don't care. You just fabricate whatever you want because you dont like admitting your wrong.

I don't care because I care about playoffs. And wtf are you talking about "you don't like admitting your wrong " ? I’ve already admitted several times that Goff turned out to be a much better player than I originally thought. If you don’t remember that, then you’ve got some kind of memory problem — or you’re just pretending not to remember. Goff is a great QB, the problem is he’s not better than Stafford, and you’ve been spending five pages in this thread trying to prove that he is . Simple as that.

Now , do you have anything to comment on those playoffs numbers / stats ? Those are not fabricated btw , they are real stats . LOL

[HellRam]

I'm not agreeing with anything. Everyone already knows Detroit for most years has been a poorly ran organization. But that doesn't negate the fact they've had good years mixed in like the Caldwell era and now currently the Campbell era which has been better.


And of course you don't care. You just fabricate whatever you want because you dont like admitting your wrong.

I don't care because I care about playoffs. And wtf are you talking about "you don't like admitting your wrong " ? I’ve already admitted several times that Goff turned out to be a much better player than I originally thought. If you don’t remember that, then you’ve got some kind of memory problem — or you’re just pretending not to remember. Goff is a great QB, the problem is he’s not better than Stafford, and you’ve been spending five pages in this thread trying to prove that he is . Simple as that.

Now , do you have anything to comment on those playoffs numbers / stats ? Those are not fabricated btw , they are real stats . LOL

I've already commented on them. No reason to repeat it.

And after 2021 I think Goff is the better QB. You dont think so and that's fine.

[brasilrams]

I don't care because I care about playoffs. And wtf are you talking about "you don't like admitting your wrong " ? I’ve already admitted several times that Goff turned out to be a much better player than I originally thought. If you don’t remember that, then you’ve got some kind of memory problem — or you’re just pretending not to remember. Goff is a great QB, the problem is he’s not better than Stafford, and you’ve been spending five pages in this thread trying to prove that he is . Simple as that.

Now , do you have anything to comment on those playoffs numbers / stats ? Those are not fabricated btw , they are real stats . LOL

I've already commented on them. No reason to repeat it.

And after 2021 I think Goff is the better QB. You dont think so and that's fine.

All good. Agree to disagree.

[SheepNoMore]

Goff is an MVP candidate this yr so if we are talking about present day there is no way 99% would take Staff

I think the post meant who would you rather have in the "playoffs"?

Which Stafford might and probably is the right answer. However, a lot of that has to do with the Rams just being the better ran team. Stafford was 0-3 in Detroit in the playoffs.

Barry Sanders, the greatest, running back of all time, was one and five in the playoffs, losing his last five. Maybe it has something to do with the team

[HellRam]

I think the post meant who would you rather have in the "playoffs"?

Which Stafford might and probably is the right answer. However, a lot of that has to do with the Rams just being the better ran team. Stafford was 0-3 in Detroit in the playoffs.

Barry Sanders, the greatest, running back of all time, was one and five in the playoffs, losing his last five. Maybe it has something to do with the team

Who said it didn't?

But let's be honest too. If you're making it the playoffs you're not a "bad" team.

[Cornell29]

The no look. 9 tds and 0 ints in the last two games