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Rams were interested in Ross but Giants got him

But they also wanted a burner to pair with Kupp and Woods as targets for Matthew Stafford. That’s why the Rams looked at John Ross, who signed with the Giants, before eventually signing 34-year-old DeSean Jackson for that role.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2021, 9:01 am

ocram23 wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2021, 8:44 am coaches make bad decisions on FA's all the time. you can't hit on every pick up. Let's not compare AD to Jackson. while I agree with you on this to a point I want to see how this pans out. If teams truly do fear DSJ and it frees up the field than absolutely it is a positive. If we are in a situation where he has hammy issues or whatever then it won't be a positive.

Totally agree Buddy. And if he gets cut in the Preseason I'll come on here and say I was wr.rrrrr...

lmao

Rams are still looking at wide outs for those concerned at D Jackson one year deal

Welcome; now deliver!

1 year deal 4.25 base value can make up to 6.25 with incentives.

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 3:10 pm 1 year deal 4.25 base value can make up to 6.25 with incentives.

A bit more than I was hoping.........

Agree Mike better get some production.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 3:14 pm

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 3:10 pm 1 year deal 4.25 base value can make up to 6.25 with incentives.

Wow. Good reporting Cornell. At that number we're gonna NEED some production from DJ....

He only gets the 6.25 if he performs. (Incentive based)
No reports of guaranteed money. So if he gets injured or he doesn't shine before the season the rams can cut him.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 5:41 pm And I fuckin CALLED it.....

At 4.5 mil??? Did you call that too? Coulda had John Ross AND Aldon Smith. lol. DJax better be worth it. This even hurts our chances of signing a top speed WR in the draft. 24 games missed - last 2 years. 6.25 million if he maxes out. .....here we go.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 3:23 pm

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 3:16 pm He only gets the 6.25 if he performs. (Incentive based)
No reports of guaranteed money. So if he gets injured or he doesn't shine before the season the rams can cut him.

The number I meant was the 4.25. I HOPE he makes the 6.25.

4.25 base. And what is the vet minimum for some with his tenure? $1.075m? We kept on hearing by some the last few days until the terms are announced........ it’s going to be a low to close to minimum contract......

You all can spin this however you want but this is way too much for a player with his resume the last two years. What has some other FA WR gotten, a bit more, around or less than this that have actually played the last two years?

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:14 pm

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 3:23 pm The number I meant was the 4.25. I HOPE he makes the 6.25.

4.25 base. And what is the vet minimum for some with his tenure? $1.075m? We kept on hearing by some the last few days until the terms are announced........ it’s going to be a low to close to minimum contract......

You all can spin this however you want but this is way too much for a player with his resume the last two years. What has some other FA WR gotten, a bit more, around or less than this that have actually played the last two years?

I still don't get what the risk is. If he doesn't perform or gets injured during the preseason then cut him.

Ross was 2.2 million but Ross also have injury concerns. A healthy D Jack >> Healthy Ross.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:16 pm

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:14 pm 4.25 base. And what is the vet minimum for some with his tenure? $1.075m? We kept on hearing by some the last few days until the terms are announced........ it’s going to be a low to close to minimum contract......

You all can spin this however you want but this is way too much for a player with his resume the last two years. What has some other FA WR gotten, a bit more, around or less than this that have actually played the last two years?

It's still peanuts. I expect a dividend here.

It’s not peanuts Mike on 3/25 with his resume the last two years. Not when he really should not have gotten much more than the vet minimum and my guess is no one else was going to give close to what he got here.

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:22 pm

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:14 pm 4.25 base. And what is the vet minimum for some with his tenure? $1.075m? We kept on hearing by some the last few days until the terms are announced........ it’s going to be a low to close to minimum contract......

You all can spin this however you want but this is way too much for a player with his resume the last two years. What has some other FA WR gotten, a bit more, around or less than this that have actually played the last two years?

I still don't get what the risk is. If he doesn't perform or gets injured during the preseason then cut him.

Ross was 2.2 million but Ross also have injury concerns. A healthy D Jack >> Healthy Ross.

4.25 compared to 1.075. That’s the point. A point in regards to that 3m+ or the entire 4.25 could have been used elsewhere. It’s not a good signing today. It may eventually be but not today.

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:22 pm

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:14 pm 4.25 base. And what is the vet minimum for some with his tenure? $1.075m? We kept on hearing by some the last few days until the terms are announced........ it’s going to be a low to close to minimum contract......

You all can spin this however you want but this is way too much for a player with his resume the last two years. What has some other FA WR gotten, a bit more, around or less than this that have actually played the last two years?

I still don't get what the risk is. If he doesn't perform or gets injured during the preseason then cut him.

Ross was 2.2 million but Ross also have injury concerns. A healthy D Jack >> Healthy Ross.

Also one is 25 the other 34. That small fact seems to continue to be ignored............

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:28 pm

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:22 pm I still don't get what the risk is. If he doesn't perform or gets injured during the preseason then cut him.

Ross was 2.2 million but Ross also have injury concerns. A healthy D Jack >> Healthy Ross.

4.25 compared to 1.075. That’s the point. A point in regards to that 3m+ or the entire 4.25 could have been used elsewhere. It’s not a good signing today. It may eventually be but not today.

Where is the proof that you could have got D Jackson cheaper? If D Jackson balls out then it won't matter.
Who is the rams getting for 1 million? John Ross who is also injury prone and doesn't have the talent of D Jackson got 2.2.
Maybe the rams should have paid 3.5 instead of 4.5. I'm really supposed to get upset about a extra million? How exactly does that hurt the cap?

I've already been down this path with Floyd last year when many said he was overpaid. We all seen how that wasn't true. Its the same thing every year. I'll see how it plays out and judge it in full at the end of the season.
In 2017 some here were saying Woods got paid too much.

Same thing just different year.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:32 pm

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:28 pm 4.25 compared to 1.075. That’s the point. A point in regards to that 3m+ or the entire 4.25 could have been used elsewhere. It’s not a good signing today. It may eventually be but not today.

Funny how McVay couldn't see how Ross is better than Jackson at half the price. What games is he watching...???

There is also the factor that Djax knows McVay's system already. So he can pretty much come in and know his assignments. It's just a matter of learning the new wrinkles. That wont take long. He's not gonna be a full timeer with snaps..At least I hope not. So hopefully that will keep the injuries fron being a problem again.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:32 pm

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:28 pm 4.25 compared to 1.075. That’s the point. A point in regards to that 3m+ or the entire 4.25 could have been used elsewhere. It’s not a good signing today. It may eventually be but not today.

Funny how McVay couldn't see how Ross is better than Jackson at half the price. What games is he watching...???

Here you go again Mike. Boy is it getting old. Why can’t we stick to conversation that is his contract as it relates to his recent production?

Bottom line neither one of you thought he would get that contract............

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:58 pm Bottom line neither one of you thought he would get that contract............

Yeah it's a million more then I thought. I was thinking 3.5 since Ross got 2.2.
I'm still waiting to see how much if any is guaranteed.

When It comes to signing free agents McSnead has done a very good job over the years. I'm expecting this to be a good move as well based off the rams free agent track record.

Whit, Woods, Floyd, D Will, Talib, Suh, Sullivan etc

If DJax is as active as this thread, he’s going for 100, 1,500 and 25, plus a couple PRs to the house.

harkin wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 5:04 pm If DJax is as active as this thread, he’s going for 100, 1,500 and 25, plus a couple PRs to the house.

I will add a few more replies to thread if needed to get to those numbers.......... Team player here.

I don't get all worked up about DJX number of games played last year. Nobody in the Eagles wanted to take the field. It was a complete circus. The way I see it is that he's coming in well rested and ready to go. I will start the bidding at 8 TDS next year for Jax.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:07 pm

99rams wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 3:57 pm At 4.5 mil??? Did you call that too? Coulda had John Ross AND Aldon Smith. lol. DJax better be worth it. This even hurts our chances of signing a top speed WR in the draft. 24 games missed - last 2 years. 6.25 million if he maxes out. .....here we go.

No. Had no idea of the price. Just figured the "deep threat" would be him and IF healthy is better than Ross easy...

Hey, Mike. Just having fun. I hope DJax works out. Veteran experience counts. I just can’t imagine it was a bidding war.

Ramsfan08ny wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 6:31 pm I don't get all worked up about DJX number of games played last year. Nobody in the Eagles wanted to take the field. It was a complete circus. The way I see it is that he's coming in well rested and ready to go.

VERY well rested, he played in even less games in 2019 (3) than he did in 2020 (5).

Dick84 wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 6:40 pm

2.75 base and 3.26 cap number This contract is fine with me.
He only gets more money of he performs and plays 50 percent if the snaps.

He gets a extra million if the rams make the playoffs.

Again where is the risk?

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 5:01 pm

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:58 pm Bottom line neither one of you thought he would get that contract............

Yeah it's a million more then I thought. I was thinking 3.5 since Ross got 2.2.
I'm still waiting to see how much if any is guaranteed.

When It comes to signing free agents McSnead has done a very good job over the years. I'm expecting this to be a good move as well based off the rams free agent track record.

Whit, Woods, Floyd, D Will, Talib, Suh, Sullivan etc

Actually D Jackson signed for less then I thought.
He has a 3.26 cap number with incentives. I thought he would cost 3.5 with incentives.

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:14 pm

You all can spin this however you want but this is way too much for a player with his resume the last two years. What has some other FA WR gotten, a bit more, around or less than this that have actually played the last two years?

Agreed--at best, DeSean Jackson might be worth $2.0 million for the 2021 season.

The Rams are paying way too much for a guy to hang out with Terrell Lewis on the sideline in street clothes... :( :? :x

ram pathos...

--The Commish

Commish wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 8:26 pm

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 25th, 2021, 4:14 pm

You all can spin this however you want but this is way too much for a player with his resume the last two years. What has some other FA WR gotten, a bit more, around or less than this that have actually played the last two years?

Agreed--at best, DeSean Jackson might be worth $2.0 million for the 2021 season.

The Rams are paying way too much for a guy to hang out with Terrell Lewis on the sideline in street clothes... :( :? :x

ram pathos...

--The Commish

2.0? That's less then what Ross got. Ross got 2.2 million with incentives. D Jack has a 2.75 base. He doesn't get any of his incentives if he is sitting on the sideline with Lewis.

As for drafting a speedy WR, I would agree. The Rams have been drafting for a year or two out in anticipation of needs. This years drafts offers several super fast WR’s that can be had in mid-rounds.