Cold in Chicago..a different viewpoint

[Jack85Youngblood]

Much is being made in the media about the Rams, McVay's and Stafford's records in cold weather games. I saw a great opinion on another thread. Most of the players on the Bears team have never played a meaningful game after the regular season from mid-January on. With the wind chill predicted in the single digits, the Bears have probably never played in this type of cold either. They were sitting at home in mid-January for the last decade. These Rams showed they can play in the cold and snow. They were the only team to give Philly a game in the playoffs last year, and they could have won. The weather may certainly play a factor, but I really don't see it as an advantage to the Bears.

[NDIrishRam]

I'm sure Stafford's record in cold weather has nothing to do with the fact that most of his career he played on horrible Lions teams? I'm sure the cold was the only reason he lost those games!

[Cornell29]

I'm sure Stafford's record in cold weather has nothing to do with the fact that most of his career he played on horrible Lions teams? I'm sure the cold was the only reason he lost those games!

Reminds me when the media and other teams fans alike was saying what Stafford playoff record was, his first season as a Ram, prior to wildcard game vs the Cards. Which, as we know, meant nothing. 4 straight post season wins including SB.

[Cornell29]

[eas-rams]

Much is being made in the media about the Rams, McVay's and Stafford's records in cold weather games. I saw a great opinion on another thread. Most of the players on the Bears team have never played a meaningful game after the regular season from mid-January on. With the wind chill predicted in the single digits, the Bears have probably never played in this type of cold either. They were sitting at home in mid-January for the last decade. These Rams showed they can play in the cold and snow. They were the only team to give Philly a game in the playoffs last year, and they could have won. The weather may certainly play a factor, but I really don't see it as an advantage to the Bears.

I've been making the same point. Both teams have to play in the cold weather. Seems to me that the Rams running game and 13 personnel schemes are better suited for the cold weather. It's not like the Bears play all their games in sub-degree weather. Seems to me that where these players played college ball and the condtions they played in college would matter more. The Rams did okay again the Eagles last year, if it wasn't for two OLine gaffs the Rams probably win that game.

[malibu]

I think to be a contrarian we should throw throw and throw get up big early the cold will help us if we can get up big and fast.

[GSOT89]

hey guys its cold, Rams should not even show up, the weather just works against the Rams.

[STL Woody]

Won’t it also be the coldest place the bears have played this year

[ocram23]

until the Rams can prove to win a playoff game in this kind of weather it will continue to be a big story.

[NorCal RF]

Ok good spot to say this……..

It’s going to be cold got it. But it is also going to turn into a football game with both teams playing in the weather. So……..

There is a huge statistical, yep I know I hate that word but am saying it, gap on one side of the ball with these 2 teams. And that is the Rams offense against their D. The 2 played at opposite ends of the spectrum this year and it’s not close……..

Rams #1 passing team in NFL. Chicago’s pass D just horrible. Rams 7th best rushing team in NFL. Chicago’s run D in the 20’s. Yards allowed by Chicago towards the bottom. It is very one sided on that side of the ball between the two teams……..

I know Carolina. Carolina’s D was not Chicago’s D this year n if Nacua catches that ball we would have put up 41 points on a Stafford off day……..

Bears offense very good. Rams secondary, well we know. But their 3rd rank rushing offense is going against a 12th rank rushing defense. Not one as low as the Bears rushing D……..

Defensive sacks? Rams 6th Bears 22nd………

I’ll even go as far as saying I think Mevis is better than Santos. I do though think their return game is a concern………

Point is this isn’t the Seahawks or Texans D this Sunday. Far from it. Far from it. At some point Sunday I think this will be the overwhelming subject of the game n not the weather………

[ocram23]

Ok good spot to say this……..

It’s going to be cold got it. But it is also going to turn into a football game with both teams playing in the weather. So……..

There is a huge statistical, yep I know I hate that word but am saying it, gap on one side of the ball with these 2 teams. And that is the Rams offense against their D. The 2 played at opposite ends of the spectrum this year and it’s not close……..

Rams #1 passing team in NFL. Chicago’s pass D just horrible. Rams 7th best rushing team in NFL. Chicago’s run D in the 20’s. Yards allowed by Chicago towards the bottom. It is very one sided on that side of the ball between the two teams……..

I know Carolina. Carolina’s D was not Chicago’s D this year n if Nacua catches that ball we would have put up 41 points on a Stafford off day……..

Bears offense very good. Rams secondary, well we know. But their 3rd rank rushing offense is going against a 12th rank rushing defense. Not one as low as the Bears rushing D……..

Defensive sacks? Rams 6th Bears 22nd………

I’ll even go as far as saying I think Mevis is better than Santos. I do though think their return game is a concern………

Point is this isn’t the Seahawks or Texans D this Sunday. Far from it. Far from it. At some point Sunday I think this will be the overwhelming subject of the game n not the weather………

valid points but I think the run game is going to be the key to the game due to the weather. 15-25 mph winds so how successful is the pass game going to be???? IMO the wind is more of a story than the cold.

[Jack85Youngblood]

I went back and looked at the weather in Chicago this year for home games in December and January. The Bears did play in frigid conditions like the one expected this Sunday when they took on the Browns on December 14th. All their other home games in those months were near freezing (32degrees) or above. FWIW

[NorCal RF]

Ok good spot to say this……..

It’s going to be cold got it. But it is also going to turn into a football game with both teams playing in the weather. So……..

There is a huge statistical, yep I know I hate that word but am saying it, gap on one side of the ball with these 2 teams. And that is the Rams offense against their D. The 2 played at opposite ends of the spectrum this year and it’s not close……..

Rams #1 passing team in NFL. Chicago’s pass D just horrible. Rams 7th best rushing team in NFL. Chicago’s run D in the 20’s. Yards allowed by Chicago towards the bottom. It is very one sided on that side of the ball between the two teams……..

I know Carolina. Carolina’s D was not Chicago’s D this year n if Nacua catches that ball we would have put up 41 points on a Stafford off day……..

Bears offense very good. Rams secondary, well we know. But their 3rd rank rushing offense is going against a 12th rank rushing defense. Not one as low as the Bears rushing D……..

Defensive sacks? Rams 6th Bears 22nd………

I’ll even go as far as saying I think Mevis is better than Santos. I do though think their return game is a concern………

Point is this isn’t the Seahawks or Texans D this Sunday. Far from it. Far from it. At some point Sunday I think this will be the overwhelming subject of the game n not the weather………

valid points but I think the run game is going to be the key to the game due to the weather. 15-25 mph winds so how successful is the pass game going to be???? IMO the wind is more of a story than the cold.

Agree on wind………..

So I feel good about our 7th rated rushing offense against their fairly low rated rushing D……….

And the same with our 12th ranked rushing D against yes a very good Bears rushing offense. But If not for the regular season Carolina game and the Atlanta game our D would be in the top 10 with this. They have played well against the run all season against some really good backs………

There will be passes thrown this Sunday. I’ll trust Stafford…………..

[ocram23]

valid points but I think the run game is going to be the key to the game due to the weather. 15-25 mph winds so how successful is the pass game going to be???? IMO the wind is more of a story than the cold.

Agree on wind………..

So I feel good about our 7th rated rushing offense against their fairly low rated rushing D……….

And the same with our 12th ranked rushing D against yes a very good Bears rushing offense. But If not for the regular season Carolina game and the Atlanta game our D would be in the top 10 with this. They have played well against the run all season against some really good backs………

There will be passes thrown this Sunday. I’ll trust Stafford…………..

I agree the Rams are the better team. Just need to go out and execute on Sunday

[DelMar]

Ok good spot to say this……..

It’s going to be cold got it. But it is also going to turn into a football game with both teams playing in the weather. So……..

There is a huge statistical, yep I know I hate that word but am saying it, gap on one side of the ball with these 2 teams. And that is the Rams offense against their D. The 2 played at opposite ends of the spectrum this year and it’s not close……..

Rams #1 passing team in NFL. Chicago’s pass D just horrible. Rams 7th best rushing team in NFL. Chicago’s run D in the 20’s. Yards allowed by Chicago towards the bottom. It is very one sided on that side of the ball between the two teams……..

I know Carolina. Carolina’s D was not Chicago’s D this year n if Nacua catches that ball we would have put up 41 points on a Stafford off day……..

Bears offense very good. Rams secondary, well we know. But their 3rd rank rushing offense is going against a 12th rank rushing defense. Not one as low as the Bears rushing D……..

Defensive sacks? Rams 6th Bears 22nd………

I’ll even go as far as saying I think Mevis is better than Santos. I do though think their return game is a concern………

Point is this isn’t the Seahawks or Texans D this Sunday. Far from it. Far from it. At some point Sunday I think this will be the overwhelming subject of the game n not the weather………

^ This

Well thought out response here, perfectly stated imo.

[RAMFAN71]

Talking about who the better team is...better offense vs defense vs ST....etc. Is sort of pointless for the cold conversation. The good vs bad are true no matter where they play. This thread is about "are the Rams at any disadvantage because of the weather being so cold". So talking about how good we are has nothing to do with the topic. The Bears just played in cold weather (not this cold) last few weeks. We play MOSTLY in warm weather. Our record is sub par in cold weather. That's why it's a story- I think they do have the weather advantage.

My caveat: these are 2 different teams from all the past records in cold. We will see. And I do like that we gave Philly a real game last year. But i still say advantage Bears with weather.

[NorCal RF]

Talking about who the better team is...better offense vs defense vs ST....etc. Is sort of pointless for the cold conversation. The good vs bad are true no matter where they play. This thread is about "are the Rams at any disadvantage because of the weather being so cold". So talking about how good we are has nothing to do with the topic. The Bears just played in cold weather (not this cold) last few weeks. We play MOSTLY in warm weather. Our record is sub par in cold weather. That's why it's a story- I think they do have the weather advantage.

My caveat: these are 2 different teams from all the past records in cold. We will see. And I do like that we gave Philly a real game last year. But i still say advantage Bears with weather.

It isn’t pointless. Disadvantage? No they are not so there sticking to the “thread topic” I guess. And why?……….

Because the Rams are the better team and it is relevant and that actually is a “story”…………..

McVay is certainly really concerned about the weather based on what he said earlier today. So are players based on what they are saying. See sarcasm. And I’m certain it’s not “what else are they going to say”………..

There is a reason why 90% of national media is picking the Rams. Any bet it’s not because of the weather…………….

Some may want to save themselves 3.5 hours on Sunday and not watch since they are convinced the weather is “the story”……………

You are a good poster 71 but this take I’m sorry…………

It will be how these 2 teams play not where they are playing and the conditions………….

And the OP stated he does not see the weather as an advantage to the Bears……………

[Rocky Mt Ram]

I think to be a contrarian we should throw throw and throw get up big early the cold will help us if we can get up big and fast.

Actualy, back in the day, Fran Tarkenton used to say that. When you don't have solid footing ont the field the wide receivers gain a little more advantage. They know where their cuts are going to be and plan accordingly. The reaction time by the DB is lowered because of the footing conditions. Fran said he relied more on his passing game when field condions were deminished. Now, that may not apply this Sunday. We know it will be cold but no reports yet on the field condition.

[RAMFAN71]

Talking about who the better team is...better offense vs defense vs ST....etc. Is sort of pointless for the cold conversation. The good vs bad are true no matter where they play. This thread is about "are the Rams at any disadvantage because of the weather being so cold". So talking about how good we are has nothing to do with the topic. The Bears just played in cold weather (not this cold) last few weeks. We play MOSTLY in warm weather. Our record is sub par in cold weather. That's why it's a story- I think they do have the weather advantage.

My caveat: these are 2 different teams from all the past records in cold. We will see. And I do like that we gave Philly a real game last year. But i still say advantage Bears with weather.

It isn’t pointless. Disadvantage? No they are not so there sticking to the “thread topic” I guess. And why?……….

Because the Rams are the better team and it is relevant and that actually is a “story”…………..

McVay is certainly really concerned about the weather based on what he said earlier today. So are players based on what they are saying. See sarcasm. And I’m certain it’s not “what else are they going to say”………..

There is a reason why 90% of national media is picking the Rams. Any bet it’s not because of the weather…………….

Some may want to save themselves 3.5 hours on Sunday and not watch since they are convinced the weather is “the story”……………

You are a good poster 71 but this take I’m sorry…………

It will be how these 2 teams play not where they are playing and the conditions………….

And the OP stated he does not see the weather as an advantage to the Bears……………

We can disagree. I honestly don't even think this a such a big take. My only point was and is, the cold is 1 factor that affects both teams. Who will it have a more adverse affect on? This is REGARDLESS of what the matchup holds. I'm certainly not saying we are screwed and not watching- that's crazy. I just hold the opinion that the cold weather will hamper our game more so than theirs. Doesn't mean for 1 second that I think we will lose. It's just 1 factor.

[STL Woody]

Good morning Ramily I am in Chicago… My word the snow is nuts and it’s 27 degrees

[RAMFAN71]

Good Lord! I'm on the east coast and it was 21 and windy this morning. Getting to the car was painful. Can't imagine playing a football game. But then again, I'm not as tough as these dudes, and nobody is paying me millions to do it.

Here's another way to put it: If you had the choice right now, to have this game played in LA Superdome....or Metlife stadium in NJ...what would you choose as a fan? NorCal would say it does not matter one bit, but I think you are off here my friend. Again- it's just 1 factor.

[STL Woody]

I hate when people call this football weather. That’s ridiculous. Football is made for the fall not the winter nor summer. They keep adding games and pushing the season deeper than it’s was made for. This is dangerous for the players and fans. That’s why the Super Bowl is played in a Dome or warm city stadium.

[ocram23]

Good Lord! I'm on the east coast and it was 21 and windy this morning. Getting to the car was painful. Can't imagine playing a football game. But then again, I'm not as tough as these dudes, and nobody is paying me millions to do it.

Here's another way to put it: If you had the choice right now, to have this game played in LA Superdome....or Metlife stadium in NJ...what would you choose as a fan? NorCal would say it does not matter one bit, but I think you are off here my friend. Again- it's just 1 factor.

it 100% matters and that is why a lot of us were so pissed when they lost the game to Seattle. home field throughout the playoffs was big

[ocram23]

I hate when people call this football weather. That’s ridiculous. Football is made for the fall not the winter nor summer. They keep adding games and pushing the season deeper than it’s was made for. This is dangerous for the players and fans. That’s why the Super Bowl is played in a Dome or warm city stadium.

which is why Bears ownership wants to build a new stadium which will be a dome

[Jacksnow]

If you break it down how cold effects the player or teams it is the receivers in my opinion that have the greatest impact on their play. Running backs will be ok, defense will be ok, o-line will be ok.

[DelMar]

Is what it is... we did this to ourselves... only RAMS are to blame for this 18 degree weather w -9 degree windchill .

Rams were the ones who decided to take a massive dump on the field w about 8 minutes left in Seattle. We simply gave up and let things go and out of hand.

So again, it's the bed we made...