I'd grab Christian Wilkins since the Raiders released him

[malibu]

Do we need more DTs no not really but once he heals he would be a perfect trade piece. The Raiders are on the hook for his deal mostly I heard something they were cancelling his guarantee.

He is a really good DT and would help in the rotation.

[Claremontram]

Why did they release him?

[DelMar]

No way. Dude had nothing but issues injury and attitude wise. Also apparently big whiner and fought w management a lot.

They did cancel the rest of his guaranteed money, as the Raiders released him with cause. Another huge red flag. Of course he’s already filed an appeal w the union.

Why else would they release a dude one year after signing him to $110M contract?! Wasn’t just because of his injuries

[ocram23]

Do we need more DTs no not really but once he heals he would be a perfect trade piece. The Raiders are on the hook for his deal mostly I heard something they were cancelling his guarantee.

He is a really good DT and would help in the rotation.

did you see what he did for the Raiders????

[NorCal RF]

No way. Dude had nothing but issues injury and attitude wise. Also apparently big whiner and fought w management a lot.

They did cancel the rest of his guaranteed money, as the Raiders released him with cause. Another huge red flag. Of course he’s already filed an appeal w the union.

Why else would they release a dude one year after signing him to $110M contract?! Wasn’t just because of his injuries

This^

[malibu]

Why did they release him?

Based on how he rehabbed his foot. He had surgery the Raiders wanted him to have more he opted to rehab it instead of additional surgery. The released him. Stupid stupid stupid bad management pure and simple. The management needs to be released not Wilkins. He is a premiere DT in the NFL. His foot will heal and this felt like a pissing contest.

[DelMar]

Why did they release him?

Based on how he rehabbed his foot. He had surgery the Raiders wanted him to have more he opted to rehab it instead of additional surgery. The released him. Stupid stupid stupid bad management pure and simple. The management needs to be released not Wilkins. He is a premiere DT in the NFL. His foot will heal and this felt like a pissing contest.

Bad management by the Raiders? Or do you mean because the player opted to treat himself and then showed up to camp still a mess? Well if that’s bad management by the Raiders, then I’m confused… because to me it sounds like Watkins managed himself right out of Vegas…

Rapoport of the NFL Network reported the team wanted him to have surgery on his foot and he declined. Further, Wilkins allegedly also turned down other medical opinions. He wanted to rehab the injury on his own.

The Raiders were disappointed that Wilkins was not ready for OTA's and minicamp this spring. When he reported to training camp on Wednesday the Raiders saw the condition he was in and immediately placed him on the physically unable to perform list.

[bigklein]

No way, man.

[GoldenRam]

Why did they release him?

Based on how he rehabbed his foot. He had surgery the Raiders wanted him to have more he opted to rehab it instead of additional surgery. The released him. Stupid stupid stupid bad management pure and simple. The management needs to be released not Wilkins. He is a premiere DT in the NFL. His foot will heal and this felt like a pissing contest.

Sounds a bit more like Shaq .. "Got hurt on company time, I'll heal on company time". He "rehabbed" and now shows up not ready to go .. sounds like PLAYER mismanagement, not team

[malibu]

No way. Dude had nothing but issues injury and attitude wise. Also apparently big whiner and fought w management a lot.

They did cancel the rest of his guaranteed money, as the Raiders released him with cause. Another huge red flag. Of course he’s already filed an appeal w the union.

Why else would they release a dude one year after signing him to $110M contract?! Wasn’t just because of his injuries

Honestly would you want to be on the Raiders. Winning type players most likely get super frustrated with the ineptitude of the overall makeup of the team. No QB let their top RB go, Adams hates it there enough said.

[malibu]

Based on how he rehabbed his foot. He had surgery the Raiders wanted him to have more he opted to rehab it instead of additional surgery. The released him. Stupid stupid stupid bad management pure and simple. The management needs to be released not Wilkins. He is a premiere DT in the NFL. His foot will heal and this felt like a pissing contest.

Bad management by the Raiders? Or do you mean because the player opted to treat himself and then showed up to camp still a mess? Well if that’s bad management by the Raiders, then I’m confused… because to me it sounds like Watkins managed himself right out of Vegas…

Rapoport of the NFL Network reported the team wanted him to have surgery on his foot and he declined. Further, Wilkins allegedly also turned down other medical opinions. He wanted to rehab the injury on his own.

The Raiders were disappointed that Wilkins was not ready for OTA's and minicamp this spring. When he reported to training camp on Wednesday the Raiders saw the condition he was in and immediately placed him on the physically unable to perform list.

He had surgery on his foot the Raiders wanted him to have a second surgery and he declined in favor of rehab.

[DelMar]

Oh yes, bad management here... I mean, for the Raiders to allow this man to rehab himself, then show up a mess and not even close to being able to play... while singing/dancing to the backstreet boys just a few days ago... Yep, Raiders management blew it here.

Really? Give me a break, Raiders wanted this man to get another surgery so he could be ready for this season. Why would they NOT WANT whats best for the player to be ready for him to perform?. Then when he rejected their opinion, he also rejected others opinions of how to fix it, and went at it alone and probably w some crazy Arron Rodgers type doctor.

Come on now

Bottm line, this dude is a man child

[malibu]

Look there obviously 2 sides to this argument but at the end of the day he is a great DT no one can deny that. I am sure he can be had cheap my play is to get him better and either use him in a rotational package or a bargaining chip at the trade deadline there will be a playoff team that needs a strong DT.

Raiders are a bad managed organization period. This situation was mismanaged by them and Wilkins. He wouldn't have done this on the Rams and if he does come I am sure with our culture he will thrive.

[DelMar]

Wilkins played in just five contests in 2024, which, according to the math of his release, netted Wilkins roughly $10 million per game.

However, just because he got paid doesn't mean Wilkins will be released quietly. Wilkins reportedly followed up the news by filing a grievance through the NFL Players Association. The Raiders opted to void $35.2 million in guaranteed money from his contract.

The former first-round pick was touted as a stalwart of the Miami Dolphins' defensive line before joining the Raiders.

Wilkins struggled with actually getting to the quarterback, amassing just 11.5 sacks in four seasons, which kept the Fins from investing big money in their draft pick.

In 2024, Wilkins tallied 17 tackles, two sacks and six quarterback hits before a Jones fracture in his foot required surgery.

Basically, the Raiders paid this man almost $10M a game

[DelMar]

Look there obviously 2 sides to this argument but at the end of the day he is a great DT no one can deny that. I am sure he can be had cheap my play is to get him better and either use him in a rotational package or a bargaining chip at the trade deadline there will be a playoff team that needs a strong DT.

Raiders are a bad managed organization period. This situation was mismanaged by them and Wilkins. He wouldn't have done this on the Rams and if he does come I am sure with our culture he will thrive.

Thats just it though Mal, hes not strong, or at least anymore. and mismanaged BY THE RAIDERS? Are you serious still on this? My goodness, this is nuts. Sure Raiders are not the best management team, but its obvious the players way didnt work, and he went against the Raiders doctors orders. So, he made his choice. Now he has to live in it... Raiders DID NOT MAKE THIS choice, Wilkins did. Lets not forget that

To me, when a player refused multiple ways to fix the foot, and goes at it alone... it's risky. THEN, to show up and not even being able to come to close to play and immediately be put on the PUP list, says everything to me.

This dude is not Rams caliber. He is a ME not WE type of player and seems like he is now past his prime. Some team will sign him, but I hope it's not us. And whats brings his stock even more down, is his attitude tells teams he knows better than them. No company wants an employee like this. Not one

[NorCal RF]

No way. Dude had nothing but issues injury and attitude wise. Also apparently big whiner and fought w management a lot.

They did cancel the rest of his guaranteed money, as the Raiders released him with cause. Another huge red flag. Of course he’s already filed an appeal w the union.

Why else would they release a dude one year after signing him to $110M contract?! Wasn’t just because of his injuries

Honestly would you want to be on the Raiders. Winning type players most likely get super frustrated with the ineptitude of the overall makeup of the team. No QB let their top RB go, Adams hates it there enough said.

“ Honestly would you want to be on the Raiders.”

You have changed your narrative from you OP. Actually most players would play for any team just to be in NFL including the Raiders. He did sign with them correct?

[NorCal RF]

Oh yes, bad management here... I mean, for the Raiders to allow this man to rehab himself, then show up a mess and not even close to being able to play... while singing/dancing to the backstreet boys just a few days ago... Yep, Raiders management blew it here.

Really? Give me a break, Raiders wanted this man to get another surgery so he could be ready for this season. Why would they NOT WANT whats best for the player to be ready for him to perform?. Then when he rejected their opinion, he also rejected others opinions of how to fix it, and went at it alone and probably w some crazy Arron Rodgers type doctor.

Come on now

Bottm line, this dude is a man child

This^

[NorCal RF]

Why is every vet on any other team the answer for this team……………….

[DelMar]

Why is every vet on any other team the answer for this team……………….

Good question, Ask Malibuskies

(love ya Malibu, I just dont agree w you on this post amigo)

[DelMar]

Honestly would you want to be on the Raiders. Winning type players most likely get super frustrated with the ineptitude of the overall makeup of the team. No QB let their top RB go, Adams hates it there enough said.

“ Honestly would you want to be on the Raiders.”

You have changed your narrative from you OP. Actually most players would play for any team just to be in NFL including the Raiders. He did sign with them correct?

Also, I think since Tom Brady has bought in, and they cleaned house w the old coach and GM, they are on the right track.

The Raiders are one of the most iconic NFL teams in all of football. They have had some issues, but its still the 'The Raiders'.

I am very sure, that any player in college football would be just fine be drafted by Las Vegas.

Lastly, I have not heard of many players in college or the NFL that said it wasnt fun to be on one of Pete Carrolls teams. The dude is a winner

So Malibu, this was not a good point. I see what you are trying to say to an extent, but the Raiders have improved.

[malibu]

Why is every vet on any other team the answer for this team……………….

Good question, Ask Malibuskies

(love ya Malibu, I just dont agree w you on this post amigo)

You guys need to read my post carefully my point ideally as a rotational piece not a starter and as he gets stronger use him in a package at the trade deadline. You all are looking at him as if I am saying we need a DT I am saying let's use him to help facilitate a trade down the line or use him for depth. He will not cost us much.

[NorCal RF]

Good question, Ask Malibuskies

(love ya Malibu, I just dont agree w you on this post amigo)

You guys need to read my post carefully my point ideally as a rotational piece not a starter and as he gets stronger use him in a package at the trade deadline. You all are looking at him as if I am saying we need a DT I am saying let's use him to help facilitate a trade down the line or use him for depth. He will not cost us much.

I actually read your OP, understood your OP, and still say no like everyone else who has replied.

[DelMar]

Good question, Ask Malibuskies

(love ya Malibu, I just dont agree w you on this post amigo)

You guys need to read my post carefully my point ideally as a rotational piece not a starter and as he gets stronger use him in a package at the trade deadline. You all are looking at him as if I am saying we need a DT I am saying let's use him to help facilitate a trade down the line or use him for depth. He will not cost us much.

Sorry my friend, juice aint worth the squeeze on this big fella.

When a player goes against his employers wishes, does his own thing, and then arrives back in camp even worse, thats a no for me dawg.

Also, when you already know that things are not looking good w your employer, and you know you've already upset them... maybe layoff dancing in the weight room to some boy band just a couple of days before you show up to camp, getting looked at and then being put on the PUP list?.

And if you think the Raiders jumped on this too soon and didnt think it through, then read this...

https://www.nfl.com/news/pete-carroll-s ... an-wilkins

The craziest thing to me, is the Pete Carroll is prob one of the most down to earth real coaches around. I have personally met the man. He loves his players and is well liked. so this decisions to cut this kid was not done lightly NOR 'bad management'.

[DelMar]

Hmmmmm…. I wonder why this guy hasn’t signed w a new club yet.

Maybe because he’s a weirdo

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/458 ... ayful-kiss

[ocram23]

“ Honestly would you want to be on the Raiders.”

You have changed your narrative from you OP. Actually most players would play for any team just to be in NFL including the Raiders. He did sign with them correct?

Also, I think since Tom Brady has bought in, and they cleaned house w the old coach and GM, they are on the right track.

The Raiders are one of the most iconic NFL teams in all of football. They have had some issues, but its still the 'The Raiders'.

I am very sure, that any player in college football would be just fine be drafted by Las Vegas.

Lastly, I have not heard of many players in college or the NFL that said it wasnt fun to be on one of Pete Carrolls teams. The dude is a winner

So Malibu, this was not a good point. I see what you are trying to say to an extent, but the Raiders have improved.

you heard it here first the Raiders are going to be a nice surprise this year. Carroll has taken over and is changing the mentality out there. Geno Smith is going to be decent.

[DelMar]

Also, I think since Tom Brady has bought in, and they cleaned house w the old coach and GM, they are on the right track.

The Raiders are one of the most iconic NFL teams in all of football. They have had some issues, but its still the 'The Raiders'.

I am very sure, that any player in college football would be just fine be drafted by Las Vegas.

Lastly, I have not heard of many players in college or the NFL that said it wasnt fun to be on one of Pete Carrolls teams. The dude is a winner

So Malibu, this was not a good point. I see what you are trying to say to an extent, but the Raiders have improved.

you heard it here first the Raiders are going to be a nice surprise this year. Carroll has taken over and is changing the mentality out there. Geno Smith is going to be decent.

The minute I heard Carroll was the coach, I felt they will be a playoff team.

[DelMar]

Do we need more DTs no not really but once he heals he would be a perfect trade piece. The Raiders are on the hook for his deal mostly I heard something they were cancelling his guarantee.

He is a really good DT and would help in the rotation.

You know, after finding about who this guy is and his typer of 'funny business'... you sure you still want to use the term 'I'd grab Christian Wilkins'?.

Hmmmm-k

[ocram23]

you heard it here first the Raiders are going to be a nice surprise this year. Carroll has taken over and is changing the mentality out there. Geno Smith is going to be decent.

The minute I heard Carroll was the coach, I felt they will be a playoff team.

good vibe at camp right now. granted they are in a very tough division and they have to stay healthy

[DelMar]

The minute I heard Carroll was the coach, I felt they will be a playoff team.

good vibe at camp right now. granted they are in a very tough division and they have to stay healthy

Pete has changed the entire environment and is actually respected as a leader and his players want to do well. Pete does not like cancers, and that is why I think truly cut Wilkins (the tip pincher/ball juggler). Pete binrgs a certain kind of energy that exudes onto the team. He's liked, experienced (won College and NFL chips). He has a good team in place. Raiders will most likely make playoffs (barring injuries)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/455 ... ving-again

[ocram23]

good vibe at camp right now. granted they are in a very tough division and they have to stay healthy

Pete has changed the entire environment and is actually respected as a leader and his players want to do well. Pete does not like cancers, and that is why I think truly cut Wilkins (the tip pincher/ball juggler). Pete binrgs a certain kind of energy that exudes onto the team. He's liked, experienced (won College and NFL chips). He has a good team in place. Raiders will most likely make playoffs (barring injuries)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/455 ... ving-again

100% agree with you. Wilkins was a cancer